10-15-2010, 03:53 PM
Okay, lots going on here.
1) I've never been a league where you were allowed to back out after a deal has been posted unless it's been vetoes, mods have changed the dynamics of the deal and presented that option to both GMs or if both GMs agreed on backing out. I've always equated posting in the forums to submitting the paperwork to the commish for approval.
2) Stang didn't know we had the rule about only mods/teams involved posting in the trade thread. We allow anyone to discuss trades in the CB or in private chat but not in the thread to avoid stirring the pot. As this thread has made evident simply making a point can be taken as a shot and that's why we don't allow it.
3) I think a big part of the being an ass rule is intent, I don't think Sean's intention was to screw anybody over or handle this deal in a shady manner so I see no reason to fine him. I think the best option would be for TBR/CHC (and potentially ARZ since he's affected too) to work out a 3rd option both teams are comfortable with. As has been previously established, the mods cannot approve "exceptions" in deals up front but if they are agreed to and carried out on the back end we can approve it (i.e. sean receiving a prospect if Price walks but we can't approve to take it into account UNTIL Price walks)
4) A big source of frustration seems to be not being able to discern whether or not Price will exercise his player option. IRL it'd be easy, just ask him and he'd tell you where he was leaning. Since we don't that have that option we're forced to work blind. This puts any team associated with Price (TBR or a trading parter) at a serious disadvantage. Since this is the case I'd ask TBR and CHC to go back to the negotiating table and finding a happy medium.
5) As a mod I cannot veto b/c somebody changes their mind especially after approving it. I have to approve the deal b/c as I said I equate it to submitting the paper work to the office. Since Sean obviously didn't view it that way and for many of the extraordinary circumstances in this deal I'd strongly encourage the two to come up with a resolution that works for both, if not it's destined to end in appointment for one of the two GMs no matter what and I know TBR and CHC like/respect each other enough to not want that.
1) I've never been a league where you were allowed to back out after a deal has been posted unless it's been vetoes, mods have changed the dynamics of the deal and presented that option to both GMs or if both GMs agreed on backing out. I've always equated posting in the forums to submitting the paperwork to the commish for approval.
2) Stang didn't know we had the rule about only mods/teams involved posting in the trade thread. We allow anyone to discuss trades in the CB or in private chat but not in the thread to avoid stirring the pot. As this thread has made evident simply making a point can be taken as a shot and that's why we don't allow it.
3) I think a big part of the being an ass rule is intent, I don't think Sean's intention was to screw anybody over or handle this deal in a shady manner so I see no reason to fine him. I think the best option would be for TBR/CHC (and potentially ARZ since he's affected too) to work out a 3rd option both teams are comfortable with. As has been previously established, the mods cannot approve "exceptions" in deals up front but if they are agreed to and carried out on the back end we can approve it (i.e. sean receiving a prospect if Price walks but we can't approve to take it into account UNTIL Price walks)
4) A big source of frustration seems to be not being able to discern whether or not Price will exercise his player option. IRL it'd be easy, just ask him and he'd tell you where he was leaning. Since we don't that have that option we're forced to work blind. This puts any team associated with Price (TBR or a trading parter) at a serious disadvantage. Since this is the case I'd ask TBR and CHC to go back to the negotiating table and finding a happy medium.
5) As a mod I cannot veto b/c somebody changes their mind especially after approving it. I have to approve the deal b/c as I said I equate it to submitting the paper work to the office. Since Sean obviously didn't view it that way and for many of the extraordinary circumstances in this deal I'd strongly encourage the two to come up with a resolution that works for both, if not it's destined to end in appointment for one of the two GMs no matter what and I know TBR and CHC like/respect each other enough to not want that.
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