05-24-2014, 05:43 PM
(05-24-2014, 05:19 PM)AndyP Wrote: Except what Cdawg said wasn't "extremely incorrect" and you strawmanned his position. His point was that virtually none of the Type A players were signed for only one year. The argument is that adding a second year would force team's hands, but most players are already getting 2 or more year offers. In fact, only 1 out of 16 have had that happen.
Your argument is that it would've taken a bit more cash each time or wouldn't have beaten those offers out, but the years are not the problem. As others are pointing out, most teams wouldn't have flinched at a bit more cash. In all likelihood all of those offers would've been beaten out because they are only mildly different than what would've been required.
You're arguing a counterfactual as if it's truth. Cdawgs point is actual truth - more than one year wasn't stopping anyone in the vast majority of cases.
i think the bigger issue is, would the same teams have offered Type A if it was 2/16? we don't know, i'm sure some would have, but i gotta believe not all would have, but again this is just speculating. Even if just a few of them that were offered Type A back then wouldn't have been offered Type A with the new system, that's a win IMO. You can't stop it all (in cases like the giants) but you should be able to stop a good bit. There just isn't much risk in a 1 year offer, especially for just decent pitchers.
We can speculate all day long about if these teams would have ponied up for the extra dough and/or extra year to have signed them or not, we don't have a damn clue either way, we're just speculating, which proves nothing. Only way to find out is to implement it and see how it goes going forward. I don't have a problem at all if it's not implemented, i think it would help the league, but honestly leaving it like it is helps me more, so whatever. I just hope that it either changes now or stays like this, cause it would suck to see this go on for another 4-8 mogul seasons where others take full advantage of this, then when i finally want to take advantage of it, then the league changes it to 2/16 or whatever, that would be very bittersweet, but whatever the league thinks is best.