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2047 Draft Analysis
#11
(07-12-2014, 03:32 PM)rockybull Wrote:
(07-11-2014, 02:50 PM)hokeyrules Wrote: I gave him the b- because he took a 1B when he had Kodo, when they could have used another pitcher or something who I think is better than the 1B. After all I said he was the best or second best 1B........... I just said selecting a 1B at 2nd pick is not what I would have done.

i just think you should be giving out grades based on how good the player is at the spot they took the player. for the most part the gm's here knows their needs and plans better than other gm's.

last sim brino - 1b of the orioles was a 88/94 and already jumped, and he was looking like a stud, now this sim he got an injury and is now a 80/90, so he's going to drop some peak on his b-day. sure, he still has time to get good, but i don't think he'll be as good as what he looked just 1 sim ago. thing is you never know what the next sim holds, you'd be pretty foolish to have just 1 guy at each position and be confident that they will all develop good/great and never drop or get any injuries. you need back up plans. and if all goes well, and your other guys do develop, you can use a guy for trade bait.

i just think you should keep that in mind. i hope that kodo can stay healthy and be great, but a lot can change before he peaks, and it's possible he could have a quick peak end, so i don't know, but it's good to have options. i took who i thought was best player available. there are just never guarantees in mogul when developing specs. i'd be very happy if both kodo and mcgee develop into good starting players, but i also realize that is no guarantee, no matter how good they look today.


Yeah I probably should have done it that way, I usually do, I guess I was just surprised you would take one after a good one, and that being said for Cleveland I wanted Redwine, even though they have Keil.

So I apolgoize if it looks a little harsh on that, as you know me, you know I meant nothing by it.


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#12
(07-12-2014, 09:07 PM)hokeyrules Wrote:
(07-12-2014, 03:32 PM)rockybull Wrote:
(07-11-2014, 02:50 PM)hokeyrules Wrote: I gave him the b- because he took a 1B when he had Kodo, when they could have used another pitcher or something who I think is better than the 1B. After all I said he was the best or second best 1B........... I just said selecting a 1B at 2nd pick is not what I would have done.

i just think you should be giving out grades based on how good the player is at the spot they took the player. for the most part the gm's here knows their needs and plans better than other gm's.

last sim brino - 1b of the orioles was a 88/94 and already jumped, and he was looking like a stud, now this sim he got an injury and is now a 80/90, so he's going to drop some peak on his b-day. sure, he still has time to get good, but i don't think he'll be as good as what he looked just 1 sim ago. thing is you never know what the next sim holds, you'd be pretty foolish to have just 1 guy at each position and be confident that they will all develop good/great and never drop or get any injuries. you need back up plans. and if all goes well, and your other guys do develop, you can use a guy for trade bait.

i just think you should keep that in mind. i hope that kodo can stay healthy and be great, but a lot can change before he peaks, and it's possible he could have a quick peak end, so i don't know, but it's good to have options. i took who i thought was best player available. there are just never guarantees in mogul when developing specs. i'd be very happy if both kodo and mcgee develop into good starting players, but i also realize that is no guarantee, no matter how good they look today.


Yeah I probably should have done it that way, I usually do, I guess I was just surprised you would take one after a good one, and that being said for Cleveland I wanted Redwine, even though they have Keil.

So I apolgoize if it looks a little harsh on that, as you know me, you know I meant nothing by it.


11-20 is now up and 21-30 will be up hopefully by tomorrow night

you don't have to apologize, it's not a problem at all. i just didn't agree is all, which is fine. i enjoy reading your analysis, so it's all good.
#13
Hokey, I think it's that you seem to dock people too much for things like Need, Dropped, or Already Progressed. Those are all things to take into consideration, but nothing to be scared off enough not to select the guy. I believe SP Todd McFadden (CIN) and C Aaron Powell (ATL) both dropped before the draft last season, yet both had a jump after the draft.

There's a great example of two similar players with one already jumping in this draft with Patrick Baker and Justin Neuenhoff. If you go back to March 1, both guys look pretty similar and, personally, I see Neuenhoff as slightly better. Fast forward to draft day and Baker looks like the obvious choice. I think you would be a fool to assume that Baker is better since his vitals/peak/overall are better. Neuenhoff could mostly certainly have a jump just like Baker. For me, another part in this is that we've already seen Neuenhoff age and we know he's not going to be a 6 or 7 peak drop. We do not know this about Baker. So, there's pros and cons of jumping/not jumping or aging/not aging.

As for need, I think it's about 25% need, 75% best player on the board. This is baseball, not football or basketball where you can get an instant impact guy. If you simply acquire the best talent on the board, you can eventually trade off the excess parts for something you need - potentially making a great profit off of your investment.
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#14
Even though Hokey panned my pick, I'm coming here in support of his Draft Analysis. It's his article, and he is doing the writing and grading, so I feel he's entitled to give out grades on whatever basis he chooses. Analysis of undeveloped players and team needs is always going to be subjective. Maybe instead of criticizing Hokey, write up your own analysis.
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#15
Well said Cad.....draft analysis is very inexact. I'm wrong 50-70% of the time every draft.
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#16
Fully finished now.
Florida GM: 2010 - 2032
Texas GM: 2033 - 2040
Florida GM: 2041 - 2103
Toronto GM: 2104 - ?
World Champion: Florida: 2015, 2027, 2053, 2059, 2062, 2064 Texas: 2037
NL Champion: 2014, 2015, 2020, 2027, 2030, 2037 2048, 2050, 2053, 2059, 2062, 2064
Best Season Record: 117-45 (2060)
2011 - 2032: 2263 - 1359 .625%
2033 - 2040: 617 - 679 .476%
2041 - 2103: 5156 - 4888 .513% 
2104 - ? 0-0 0% 

Total Record: 8036 - 6926 .537%
Best Pitcher Ever: Donovan Pace
#17
Good job Hokey, always enjoy reading these!
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