Winterball Idea!!!!!!!!!

[Geaux Blue]

While I was showering this morning an idea dawned on me. This may have been brought up in the past but whatever.

Why not make WB slots a commodity? Meaning you could trade them. This gives teams that have more slots an opportunity to keep them or trade them as they deem necessary. Obviously there would be a small window to trade them if you'd like but I think that makes it less of a hassle for mods to have to keep track of over the course of a year. This doesn't increase WB slots in the least and gives teams with lesser records more avenues to better their team.

Now please tell me why this is a horrible idea.

[mike]

I think it would increase the amount of players going to WB. Take me for example. I never send a player to WB but you bet your ass I'd trade away my slots to someone willing to give me something for them. Even if it was a mil it would be better than nothing. I hate WB already as it artificially makes other specs drop even though it does take some money out of the league. No point in adding more fuel to the fire imo.

[AndyP]

mike's reasoning is very sound. This idea would, I think, ensure that every potential WB slot is used. As of now, only a percentage of them are.

[mattynokes]

Well, it would create more spots in the sense that people who don't WB would then be interested in trading their slots of they can get something. I'm not 100% opposed to something like this. But we would need to figure out a way to not make this some crazy get-rich-quick scheme.

Just spitballing, but something like if you want to sell a WB slot, the receiving team pays $20M. $10M to WB, $5M to the other team, $5M vanishes for extra WB slot tax.

[rockybull]

I'm not necessarily opposed to this either, but is it that bad that not everyone uses their WB? I mean, you already have drops from other players around the league, in part because some players are getting better in WB. All this would mean is you have even more drops. That's just something to think about. If this does go through, I would like for this to also go through:

1 Slot = .585+ W%
2 Slots = .500-.584 W%
3 Slots = .499- W%

That's what matty said in another thread, and that would make a ton of sense.

[Peter]

I with mike.. we should be finding ways to decrease the prevalence and frequency of winterball (or get rid of it completely). Not increase it

[Cdawg]

I'd be for it. Maybe capping the amount of WB slots any team can actually have tho.

[Steal Third]

I don't know...favors the richer teams. But, if it encourages them to spend rather than hoard, maybe it works out. The notable thing is that teams at the lower end of the standings are sitting on the most cash.

[mattynokes]

Removing winterball would only further teams stockpiling cash, so I don't think that's an option. Here's something I've came up with:

Winterball Rules:
- Cost is 10M
- Teams can acquire one more winterball slot than they're allotted (20M for extra slot)

Players can be sent based on:
- Never received a positive winterball previously
- 79 overall or lower and 80+ peak
- Any overall if drafted in previous year

1 Slot = .585+ W%
2 Slots = .500-.584 W%
3 Slots = .499- W%

Results will be input on March 1st and are produced by randomizer.org based on the following outcomes:

1-4: 250 day injury
5-10: 50 day injury
11-45: No change
46-140: +1 predicted
141-175: +1 predicted, +1 peak
176-185: +2 predicted, +1 peak
186-195: +2 predicted, +2 peak
196-200: +3 predicted, +2 peak
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1) Teams can pick up one additional slot. The extra slot will cost double, so it would help get cash out of the league as well as not making WB trading a get-rich-quick scheme.

2) If a player gets an injury or no change roll, they can go back through next year (as long as they still fit the rating requirements). Again, this gets cash out of the league.

3) While 80+ peak encourages better players to be sent, it will also decrease the chances other players in the file receiving a random drop.

4) As suggested before, allowing recent draftees to be WB'd only expands the pool of eligible players.

4) The new WB allotments limits the overall total of players that can be WB'd.

[AndyP]

I'd only want extra slots to be able to be purchases for far more than double. Closer to quadruple for me to get behind that.