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11-17-2013, 06:44 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-17-2013, 07:06 PM by mattynokes.)
So even after a few seasons since we've capped the banks at 50M, we still have problems. There's a few issues to tackle. There's still too much cash in the league, some players have too high of salaries, and Mogul can give outrageous arbitration prices. We also need to keep the integrity of contracts and not give people the ability to sign quality players to cheap, long-term contracts.
Here's my take:
1. Shave salaries down to $25M: Anyone with a salary above $25M will be lowered to $25M and the difference in the remainder of the contract will be taken out of team cash.
2. Put all in-game cash above $75M in "stadium" bank after 2042, but all cash above $50M after 2043 in stadium bank: No one has yet to really take advantage of the stadium earmark. There's still some teams with globs and globs of money in-game. It's time to force their hand since it affects everyone's asking prices.
Of course, anyone whose regular team bank is below $50M would be able to put the money there before having to put the remainder in the "stadium" bank.
3. Cap Arbitration prices: We all know Mogul goes bonkers when a player has a big season who is arbitration eligible. It's not right, since realistically the whole body of work is taken into consideration.
1st Year Eligible: $12.5M Cap
2nd Year Eligible: $15.0M Cap
3rd Year Eligible: $17.5M Cap
4th Year Eligible: $20.0M Cap
Overall, I think these ideas will help reduce the number of outrageous asking prices for anomaly seasons. Taking out the cash will help everyone, so you're asking prices aren't raised because of your neighbor's deep pockets. We've allowed enough time for people to do something about it themselves. And if they have that much money anyways, what the hell are they doing with it? Surely it doesn't hurt to make it only usable on large stadium expenses. Lastly, the arbitration caps are slightly above the realistic max figures and will help keep the Audley or Scarth situations from happening.
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1. Totally against
2. totally against
3. im fine with if people are really for it
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1 and 3 I like. But number 2 i don't think forcing peoples hands is really fair when it wasn't their fault that all the money was brought into the game. For 35 seasons they were allowed to bank as much as they want where it wasn't effecting anyone. Now to tell them than anything after X amount has to go for a stadium. A Stadium in which they may never want to build or upgrade seems pretty un-fair. Its not not smart to blow 15mil a year or something crazy on depth players and no one really deals good picks for cash so what was supposed to happen to that money?
What I would do is actually allow anyone making over 10mil be bought down. Much more significant enticement and more players eligable means it should actually make a good dent in the cash piles.
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(11-17-2013, 08:25 PM)Peter Wrote: 1. Totally against
2. totally against
3. im fine with if people are really for it
What's bad about #1? It's not a get out of jail free card. No matter what the team is still paying the contract. It just gets the cash out of the game quicker.
As Mike suggested, I guess we could offer it up to lesser salaries as well. Really it's to the admin that would be doing the file editing on this. I wouldn't have a problem doing it, but I would limit it to players making over $15M.
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1. I don't see the point. There are only like 9 in the entire file and half of them will likely be retiring in the next two years anyway. And some of the others were won with intense FA bidding. I don't think it's necessary or wise.
2. I think we just need to continue dropping revenues. At this point we stabilized the file so anyone stockpiling cash is going to pay for it in resignings. There is only so much we can do.
3. I'm all for this, but not because of the league's finances. More because Mogul's coding is friggin stupid.
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I 100% agree with Mike (words that have never once been spoken). At this point, I believe I've maxed out my stadium upgrades, so I don't really know what else I can do to get rid of the hordes of cash I have in game. It's not fair - no matter how much advance - to force teams to blow all of their money they've made in one or two offseasons. I was planning to make a pretty big splash in FA to help get myself into you guys' good graces, but this is such an awful FA crop and none of them are worth the money they're getting bid up to. I'm not spending $15M on a 81 RP just because I have to spend the money to get down to a certain amount of cash. Some time in the next couple/few years, I'm going to want to pull a DLee/Corey and build a $250M payroll to go with the talented players I hope to have at that point, but until then, I'll deal with high resignings prices. Penalize us for keeping so much cash (like a luxury tax, but based on cash in game), but don't just take it out and put it in a place that I won't use if my stadium is in tip top shape.
Other than that, I like 1 and 3.
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If people were open to a "luxury tax" of sorts (meaning, no one is going to complain and threaten to quit) I'd be open to that. Something like a percentage of every dollar you make in cash over a certain amount.
To me that would be 100M. So maybe 40% of any profit you make in a season that surpasses $100M is taken?
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i dont really have much of a stance on the amount itself, but i'd be open to something like that. let's see what the other folks think, though.
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(11-18-2013, 07:18 PM)AndyP Wrote: If people were open to a "luxury tax" of sorts (meaning, no one is going to complain and threaten to quit) I'd be open to that. Something like a percentage of every dollar you make in cash over a certain amount.
To me that would be 100M. So maybe 40% of any profit you make in a season that surpasses $100M is taken?
Are we talking cash? revenue? profit?
Revenue wouldn't make much sense since we already share revenue. Cash doesn't seem right since it should hit teams harder in the specific year when they make more money. And we only had a league average of 12M profit, so I guess I'm not sure where the 100M comes in to play.
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I'm on board for all of matty's suggestions.
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