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Just a thought, but with the number of comp picks this year and the fact that they were earned for a pretty average crop of FA talent I'd like to propose a few ideas:
1) We reduce the number of comp. eligible players so that we aren't earning comp for guys like Soto or Poland or other mediocre players
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2) We slide the comp round to the 2/3 range. There is still tremendous value there but this way it keeps that second round unaffected for teams drafting at the higher end of the draft order.
Personally, I am strongly in favor of #2, but just wanted to feel out how others felt about it.
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Comp was designed as a way that smaller area teams receive compensation for not being able to afford players. How many times has that been the case in this league?
I see Comp in this league as a way that upper level teams refuel their teams. Thats all I ever seem to see.
So anything to reduce Comp seems resonable to me. I like #2 because it takes the Comp down as less of a factor.
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Comp is not designed here for helping teams with affordability - it's done to encourage free agent classes.
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I think with moving the compensation round back it will deter people from letting players go to FA. I don't know if Geist or Widdup ends up a FA if compensation is a round later.
I still think what I talked to Andy about is the best idea - qualifying offers. We can get rid of compensation eligible postings altogether and allow the league to choose who is compensation worthy. I wouldn't want to figure out the average of the top 125 salaries (like MLB does). We don't have inflation so a constant qualifying offer would work just fine (something in the $10M to $12M range). That way players who are truly compensation worthy get compensated. Also an injury year wouldn't disqualify a player, like the current system does.
In the end the mediocre players won't be worth offering a qualifying offer and the better players still get appropriate compensation. As said, it also allows the team to choose who they feel will be offered in FA.
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okay, i like Matty's idea.
Top 125 salaries is easy to calculate also.
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i really like the current system, and I dont see any problems
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(11-11-2012, 08:10 PM)Peter Wrote: i really like the current system, and I dont see any problems
Well no shit the person that got compensation for mediocre players would say this.
To respond to the others, I would not like to have to worry about calculating the qualifying offer salary from year to year. We have inflation turned off, so we probably won't see much change from year to year. If we start to notice a change in salaries, we can change the qualifying offer amount. I think $11M would be appropriate. That would aroundabout be the top 150 salaries. It would prevent people from getting what amounts to an early 2nd for average players and still promote teams to release those high 80s to low 90s players into FA.
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I'm not even sure what you mean by this qualifiying system? Please explain how that process would work. Howvere I don't see anything wrong with he current system. Some years we have more comp guys, some we have less. Its simply nitpicking at this point. If the players were that meidocre they wouldnt have gotten signed considering how many people we see every year trying to trade for late round picks.
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The problem with matty's idea is that it would be even MORE restrictive to guys releasing players. Qualifying offers of 10-12M would then have to be decided by the league which players would prefer to accept the qualifying offer. A guy like Widdup may prefer the qualifying offer and get 1 more year at 12M and hope for FA again next year. Also, this system would restrict small market teams from accessing compensation picks because they wouldn't want to pay the large qualifying offers.
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