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It's been mentioned before, but just thought I'd post just in case we forgot.
Maybe somewhere between 80-90% would be cool.
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agree, would help move more players
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I agree. In real life its not imo to basically tell a guy that no matter how you perform atyour job your going to get paid this amount. Your money should have to be earned. Now I realise in this game you can take advantage of that fact especially during the re-signings phase, but during the FA bidding phase we have pretty much eliminated that with out new rules. Even if it was lowered a bit it would be nice. As it stands right now your better off letting the guy rot on your team since your paying him either way. I'm sure in real life the player would much rather get paid something to leave the team and then get signed elsewhere so he at least has a chance to play.
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One reason for the 100% buyout is because it's easier to figure out. The game has a 50% buyout, so it's an easy times two and you know the figure. But I do think lightening it up a bit would be good. I think the best thing to do is make it so the more years left, the greater percentage you still have to pay.
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matty's suggestion is nice.
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(05-04-2011, 05:16 AM)mike Wrote: I agree. In real life its not imo to basically tell a guy that no matter how you perform atyour job your going to get paid this amount. Your money should have to be earned. Now I realise in this game you can take advantage of that fact especially during the re-signings phase, but during the FA bidding phase we have pretty much eliminated that with out new rules. Even if it was lowered a bit it would be nice. As it stands right now your better off letting the guy rot on your team since your paying him either way. I'm sure in real life the player would much rather get paid something to leave the team and then get signed elsewhere so he at least has a chance to play.
In real life - money talks, playing time is just a bonus. 100% buyouts are a reality in MLB for a reason.
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Even so, in a video game sense its better to let another chance snatch up the player if they could use them.
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(05-07-2011, 08:46 PM)mike Wrote: Even so, in a video game sense its better to let another chance snatch up the player if they could use them.
It makes even more sense serving as a way to deter people from handing out contracts they can't afford or will later back out of. Especially when you consider FA.
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05-08-2011, 02:28 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-08-2011, 02:30 AM by dejota.)
I think Andy hit the nail on the head.
100% has certainly resulted in a new level of responsibility that's both realistic and has long-term benefits to league health. However, it expedites wrecking franchises and can really complicate a rebuild when paired with unlucky prospect development or injuries.
Lowered buyouts allows for GMs to only have to pay X% on the dollar on their mistakes while benefiting fully from the rare player who produces the life of his contract. I think Matty noted in another thread something about if contracts are guaranteed so should performance to some degree, and I could disagree with that assessment more. In baseball you pay 100% for both and in the end success is often about mitigating or not making mistakes on long-term deals. I think a far more reasonable course of action would be GMs limiting deals longer than 5 deals like GMs in the real MLB have learned to do, at least the one's who keep their jobs for longer than 3 or 4 seasons.
However, we still need to decide which is more beneficial to the league's health, both long and short term? The reason I haven't already approved this suggestion is because I feel we've addressed any short term issues by allowing trading of DPs and I really think we should give guaranteed contracts longer than one full season before passing judgement. At this point I think any poor impact is more of a side-effect and we're forgetting that we've cured the cancer that has been irresponsible contracts.
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I liked Mattys tier system where you pay a percentaged based on the amount of time remaining on their contract. Maybe even flip it upside down and the earlier in the ocntract it is the less u pay, that way in the later years your still shooting yourself in the foot because you still have toi pay quite a bit. Say like:
1st year 50%
2nd year 60%
3rd year 75%
4th year 85%
5th year 90%
etc.
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