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FA bidding revisited
#1
I think that along with our per year min bids and beating total value of the contract that we should also make it so we have to outbid the annual salary as well. Can't remember the player but its just from this year, the bid was 3 years x 7mil and someone upped the bid by going 4 years x 6mil. So basically he only makes an extra 3mil for an extra year of service time. Theres pretty much no chance he'd take this in real life unless hes just old looking to make as much guranteed money as possible.

A season ago I would have been agaisnt this but since we already implemented the year min bid we might as well take it a step further and perfect the system.
#2
Outahere has a calculator for contract value. It makes a lot of sense that a player would take a, say, $7M/2 Yr deal over a $5M/3 Yr deal. He'd only have to make $1M in that "third year" to equal the value of the second contract and I think it's safe to say a player getting those kind of offers would surely get $1M for that "third year".
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#3
I'm not completely against a calculator depending on how easy it is to use. Honestly though I'd rather just keep it simple by having a rule of beating 2 seperate numbers, the annual and total
#4
I could likely post a calculator on the site, not promising but if there's a way to code it I can figure it out.
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#5
The calculator is very simple to use. Whichever offer is the shorter offer goes in B2 and B4. The longer offer goes in C2 and C4. For the salary you can use 1.0 for $1M, 1.5 for $1.5M, etc... Then your final values are listed E2 and E4. Whichever is higher in column E is the leading offer.


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Cleveland Record5631-4946 (.532) [2054-2071, 2083-2104, 2110-2135]
AL Post: 16 (ALC), 11 (WC) - ALDS Win: 12 - ALCS Champ: 7 - WS Champ: 4

ALW: Mariners + Angels Record: 1072-864 (.554) [2042-2048, 2105-2110]
AL Post: 3 (ALW), 4 (WC) - ALDS Win: 3 - ALCS Champ: 1 - WS Champ: 1

NLW: Rockies + Padres Record: 3230-2753 (.540) [2017-2042, 2072-2082]
NL Post: 18 (NLW), 4 (WC) - NLDS Win: 7 - NLCS Champ: 4 - WS Champ: 0
#6
Sorry, I honestly think subjective evaluation would be easier accepted by current and future GMs then dragging out a calculator. I'm not dead set against the change, but I think it would frustrate me quite a bit during free agency.
#7
We could just keep it simple and if you are going to offer more years on a deal that the dollar value per year has to be within 20%.

For example

Team A offer Player A 1 year @ 1M

So if Team B wanted to come in and offer a 2 year deal they would have to come in with at least a 2 year @ 800K offer.
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#8
lol the 20% thing could get confusing as well with bigger offers for some I would figure. Some don't like the calculator idea, which I use it in outahere and takes no time to use, but I don't care if it's used here or not though. I think the calculator idea is a lot easier than that 20% idea though.
#9
how is 20% difficult? you take a number and multiply it by .8.

take 5 for example 5 x .8 = 4

to help people even more you take 5 x 8 = 40 now move the decimal point over to the left by 1. So the 40 becomes 4.

3 x 8 = 24 so the numer would be 2.4M
11 x 8 = 88 so the number would be 8.8M
.... I could go on and on did not realize multiplication was confusing.
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#10
(04-19-2011, 03:33 PM)GoIrish Wrote: how is 20% difficult? you take a number and multiply it by .8.

take 5 for example 5 x .8 = 4

to help people even more you take 5 x 8 = 40 now move the decimal point over to the left by 1. So the 40 becomes 4.

3 x 8 = 24 so the numer would be 2.4M
11 x 8 = 88 so the number would be 8.8M
.... I could go on and on did not realize multiplication was confusing.

I never said it was actually difficult for me(but im sure it will be for some), BUT why multiply when the outahere calculator does not make you have to multiply? Why do this when the outahere calculator is wayyyy easier and no multiplying at all? For most Multiplication isn't confusing, but most don't want to come on here and have to multiply, and I am one that doesn't want to. If it is required that this is the way to go then I will cut back on FA so that I have as little to do with multiplication as possible lol. Sad, but shit I'm a full time student, math and anything to do with math is the furthest thing on my mind outside of school.
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