Poll: Should we remove Sean's ugly past from the league?
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Yes, All his HOF players AND his Championships
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Yes, But ONLY his Championships
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No, it makes no sense to do it now since we've gotten this far.
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Painful but True
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(01-19-2016, 02:43 PM)Peter Wrote: The distinction that I make from NCAA to FCM is that within the NCAA the advantages gained were solely off the field and really had no on-field impact. The changes that Sean made had a significant advantage that other opponents could not have.

This.

Plus removing Sean's name or players isn't trying to act like it never happened. It's saying that the accolades were not earned in a moral and ethical way and therefore he should not get credit.

It's why I suggest leaving the team logos up on the blog, but removing Sean's name. In the least, I feel his credit for the championships should be vacated. With the players, I can see the point to removing or keeping them. That personal player's legacy didn't undoubtedly mean another player couldn't make the HOF.

However, his actions directly influenced division titles and playoff results. Many, many teams lost out on potential playoff appearances or even world series victories? Like I stated above, I don't think there's enough concern over his run with the Cubs, so I would keep those titles as-is. He didn't have the factory of players having massively extended careers with the Cubs as he did with the Angels.
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Cleveland Record5631-4946 (.532) [2054-2071, 2083-2104, 2110-2135]
AL Post: 16 (ALC), 11 (WC) - ALDS Win: 12 - ALCS Champ: 7 - WS Champ: 4

ALW: Mariners + Angels Record: 1072-864 (.554) [2042-2048, 2105-2110]
AL Post: 3 (ALW), 4 (WC) - ALDS Win: 3 - ALCS Champ: 1 - WS Champ: 1

NLW: Rockies + Padres Record: 3230-2753 (.540) [2017-2042, 2072-2082]
NL Post: 18 (NLW), 4 (WC) - NLDS Win: 7 - NLCS Champ: 4 - WS Champ: 0
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Painful but True - by 'PR' - 01-18-2016, 02:01 PM
RE: Painful but True - by Peter - 01-18-2016, 02:05 PM
RE: Painful but True - by mike - 01-18-2016, 02:08 PM
RE: Painful but True - by 'PR' - 01-18-2016, 02:09 PM
RE: Painful but True - by mike - 01-18-2016, 02:25 PM
RE: Painful but True - by mattynokes - 01-18-2016, 02:35 PM
RE: Painful but True - by mike - 01-18-2016, 03:26 PM
RE: Painful but True - by AndyP - 01-18-2016, 07:35 PM
RE: Painful but True - by mattynokes - 01-18-2016, 09:34 PM
RE: Painful but True - by 'PR' - 01-18-2016, 11:32 PM
RE: Painful but True - by dlee2499 - 01-18-2016, 11:55 PM
RE: Painful but True - by gmoney - 01-19-2016, 01:51 PM
RE: Painful but True - by Peter - 01-19-2016, 02:43 PM
RE: Painful but True - by mattynokes - 01-19-2016, 03:34 PM
RE: Painful but True - by 'PR' - 01-19-2016, 04:27 PM
RE: Painful but True - by AndyP - 01-19-2016, 06:16 PM

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