Poll: Should we remove Sean's ugly past from the league?
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Yes, All his HOF players AND his Championships
30.00%
6 30.00%
Yes, But ONLY his HOF players
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2 10.00%
Yes, But ONLY his Championships
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1 5.00%
No, it makes no sense to do it now since we've gotten this far.
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11 55.00%
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Painful but True
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After chewing on this:

1. I don't think his Cubs players should be considered for removal, just his Angels players. Seidel didn't having an absurdly long career, Aitkenhead and Prywes both were doing the same thing at the same time, there was Widdup and Pace, and I believe Romero was passed around a lot, so giving CHC credit is more of picking one team (as I recall).

Just because someone cheats, doesn't mean they were doing it from the get-go. His players with the Cubs just didn't have that similar all too coincidental longevity that his Angels players did, so I would put it up for a vote if guys like Demont, Horton, Vandyke, Carson, and anyone else that got in under Sean's Angels.

2. Since I don't think the Cubs players should be removed, I don't think the Cubs championships should be removed. I think removing his name from under the Angles logo would suffice. To a prospective GM, removing the logo as well looks more like an error on our part rather than acknowledging it was vacated.
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Cleveland Record5631-4946 (.532) [2054-2071, 2083-2104, 2110-2135]
AL Post: 16 (ALC), 11 (WC) - ALDS Win: 12 - ALCS Champ: 7 - WS Champ: 4

ALW: Mariners + Angels Record: 1072-864 (.554) [2042-2048, 2105-2110]
AL Post: 3 (ALW), 4 (WC) - ALDS Win: 3 - ALCS Champ: 1 - WS Champ: 1

NLW: Rockies + Padres Record: 3230-2753 (.540) [2017-2042, 2072-2082]
NL Post: 18 (NLW), 4 (WC) - NLDS Win: 7 - NLCS Champ: 4 - WS Champ: 0
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Painful but True - by 'PR' - 01-18-2016, 02:01 PM
RE: Painful but True - by Peter - 01-18-2016, 02:05 PM
RE: Painful but True - by mike - 01-18-2016, 02:08 PM
RE: Painful but True - by 'PR' - 01-18-2016, 02:09 PM
RE: Painful but True - by mike - 01-18-2016, 02:25 PM
RE: Painful but True - by mattynokes - 01-18-2016, 02:35 PM
RE: Painful but True - by mike - 01-18-2016, 03:26 PM
RE: Painful but True - by AndyP - 01-18-2016, 07:35 PM
RE: Painful but True - by mattynokes - 01-18-2016, 09:34 PM
RE: Painful but True - by 'PR' - 01-18-2016, 11:32 PM
RE: Painful but True - by dlee2499 - 01-18-2016, 11:55 PM
RE: Painful but True - by gmoney - 01-19-2016, 01:51 PM
RE: Painful but True - by Peter - 01-19-2016, 02:43 PM
RE: Painful but True - by mattynokes - 01-19-2016, 03:34 PM
RE: Painful but True - by 'PR' - 01-19-2016, 04:27 PM
RE: Painful but True - by AndyP - 01-19-2016, 06:16 PM

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