10-08-2014, 10:06 PM
I want to propose a change to maybe improve this file. I’ve been thinking about this for awhile, i didn’t want to say anything, but I’m going to just say it now, because I believe it needs to be said. I think winterball in this league is ridiculous the way it is, and I’m not the only one that believes this. When I first joined here, I didn’t think anything about winterball, I just assumed it was similar to other leagues that have had it, but I have to say, it’s much more extreme in this league than any other that I have ever played in and I think it has messed with the file way more than it should.
First off, winterball just manipulates the file anyway; if someone jumps big 6-8 points in winterball here, guess what? You guessed it; someone else in the file is going to unfairly have to shit the bed just because some lucky player got a great roll in winterball. Even if it’s 3-4 points or whatever, same shit. This messes up peaked and unpeaked players, when it shouldn't. Also, I’ve noticed some teams over the years seems to be getting better rolls, which is fine, it’s all luck, but some of this is substantial, and it’s better to let the file give you lucky jumps or whatever than silly winterball rolls.
I realize for this league, that winterball is probably, unfortunately, here to stay because of the cash situation, and that’s a good way to get rid of cash. I will say this, of the legit mogul leagues out there, this is the only one still using winterball, which I think is outdated and to me really shouldn’t be used. But since it’s likely here to stay, I think it should be tweaked a good bit. Seems like over the years a lot of drops I’ve noticed, just overall in the league, and I think a lot of them have to do with winterball. Obviously, you will have drops from players anyway, that’s mogul, but here it seems bigger that I’ve seen in the past and it sometimes doesn’t feel like mogul to me, I’m not sure if it’s just me or what, but that’s honestly how I feel.
Last league that I was in that used winterball, was outahere, they were more conservative on jumps and throughout the years, I didn’t feel that the specs or mlb guys were just gonna take hits bad, and that was thanks to the winterball they used. Here is what outahere used:
Skill program outcomes
300 day injury..............1% (1)
100 day injury..............3% (2-4)
30 day injury...............8% (5-12)
No change..................30% (13-42)
+1 peak....................25% (43-67)
+2 peak....................25% (68-93)
+2 health, +2 peak..........8% (93-100)
If you notice, they didn’t use predicted like we do here, and I believe that is a major reason why it messes up the file here, and this is what we use here in FCM:
1-4: 250 day injury
5-10: 50 day injury
11-45: No change
46-140: +1 predicted
141-175: +1 predicted, +1 peak
176-185: +2 predicted, +1 peak
186-195: +2 predicted, +2 peak
196-200: +3 predicted, +2 peak
To me, the predicted is just too big of a thing here. I’ve been in many different leagues in my time in mogul and this file just feels weird and different to me, I’ve felt this way for awhile, but I can’t keep quite anymore. I’m sure most will likely just write this off and not care, but I feel this is a problem and I feel using outahere’s way would be better for the file, no using predicted, go with the peak. I also think going from 1-100 is better than 1-200. I think if we get rid of using predicted, and go with 1-100 scale that this file will start acting normal and not be manipulated because of the insane winterball that is making mogul have to fix things on its own, which I think is a problem. It’s less of a problem if we do like I propose.
Overall, I feel changing this can really be the next step for this league, and can improve this file even more. This is no knee-jerk reaction; I’ve been looking at this file for awhile, and I firmly believe that winterball is more of a problem here than people may want to admit or understand. To me it doesn’t feel like mogul sometimes, not really sure how to explain it more, maybe most think it’s fine, but to me it’s not fine at all and I do believe it is a problem.
First off, winterball just manipulates the file anyway; if someone jumps big 6-8 points in winterball here, guess what? You guessed it; someone else in the file is going to unfairly have to shit the bed just because some lucky player got a great roll in winterball. Even if it’s 3-4 points or whatever, same shit. This messes up peaked and unpeaked players, when it shouldn't. Also, I’ve noticed some teams over the years seems to be getting better rolls, which is fine, it’s all luck, but some of this is substantial, and it’s better to let the file give you lucky jumps or whatever than silly winterball rolls.
I realize for this league, that winterball is probably, unfortunately, here to stay because of the cash situation, and that’s a good way to get rid of cash. I will say this, of the legit mogul leagues out there, this is the only one still using winterball, which I think is outdated and to me really shouldn’t be used. But since it’s likely here to stay, I think it should be tweaked a good bit. Seems like over the years a lot of drops I’ve noticed, just overall in the league, and I think a lot of them have to do with winterball. Obviously, you will have drops from players anyway, that’s mogul, but here it seems bigger that I’ve seen in the past and it sometimes doesn’t feel like mogul to me, I’m not sure if it’s just me or what, but that’s honestly how I feel.
Last league that I was in that used winterball, was outahere, they were more conservative on jumps and throughout the years, I didn’t feel that the specs or mlb guys were just gonna take hits bad, and that was thanks to the winterball they used. Here is what outahere used:
Skill program outcomes
300 day injury..............1% (1)
100 day injury..............3% (2-4)
30 day injury...............8% (5-12)
No change..................30% (13-42)
+1 peak....................25% (43-67)
+2 peak....................25% (68-93)
+2 health, +2 peak..........8% (93-100)
If you notice, they didn’t use predicted like we do here, and I believe that is a major reason why it messes up the file here, and this is what we use here in FCM:
1-4: 250 day injury
5-10: 50 day injury
11-45: No change
46-140: +1 predicted
141-175: +1 predicted, +1 peak
176-185: +2 predicted, +1 peak
186-195: +2 predicted, +2 peak
196-200: +3 predicted, +2 peak
To me, the predicted is just too big of a thing here. I’ve been in many different leagues in my time in mogul and this file just feels weird and different to me, I’ve felt this way for awhile, but I can’t keep quite anymore. I’m sure most will likely just write this off and not care, but I feel this is a problem and I feel using outahere’s way would be better for the file, no using predicted, go with the peak. I also think going from 1-100 is better than 1-200. I think if we get rid of using predicted, and go with 1-100 scale that this file will start acting normal and not be manipulated because of the insane winterball that is making mogul have to fix things on its own, which I think is a problem. It’s less of a problem if we do like I propose.
Overall, I feel changing this can really be the next step for this league, and can improve this file even more. This is no knee-jerk reaction; I’ve been looking at this file for awhile, and I firmly believe that winterball is more of a problem here than people may want to admit or understand. To me it doesn’t feel like mogul sometimes, not really sure how to explain it more, maybe most think it’s fine, but to me it’s not fine at all and I do believe it is a problem.