After this year, we should decide either 2018 or 2020. That's whats fair. Either 5 more seasons until we discuss it or 7. We don't want to have to go through this all over again in the matter of one year. We just want to play the game, and expansion is a dream that you want. But if you want a dream of keeping a league active and steady for 20+ seasons, you should really take into account what the GMs want. Not saying you don't, but it's what a great admin should do IMO. We want a league to play in for 20+ seasons. BTW how effective will expanding really be in terms of making the league better or great? How will that make anyone notice us? With the reputation of expansion, people will actually shy away from the league if they hear we expanded. We won't go into any record books by 2014. We will go into the record books if we last as long as Outahere, we are too young to be serious about going down in mogul history.