07-16-2023, 03:44 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-16-2023, 04:33 PM by mattynokes.)
Here's my thoughts:
Catcher: DeMichael Thomas and Jeff Hainsworth
I think this position is easy. Hainsworth had a unique blend of bat, defense, and speed. He has our highest catching OPS and he won a trio of MVPs. If not Hainsworth, then Thomas might be our best catcher ever. He put up torrid numbers while playing in a pitcher's paradise of Florida. If he played in a hitter's park, he may have tangoed with 3,000 hits.
First Base: Jamie Archiega and ??? (after Archy, I'm unsure)
1. I don't think any of the Vet Committe players make it. There are other players with more compelling milestone numbers to go along with similar overall production numbers.
2. Kollars boasts nearly 3,000 hits, is #2 in all-time RBI, and had over 1,100 extra base hits. He makes a VERY strong case.
3. Dan Vines is on our Mount Rushmore (and has 7 MVPs), but I have to wonder if the hitting park of Cincy will knock his skills down enough to not translate better than one of the others.
4. Mickey Bailey: This may very well be the type of player that I'm referring to with Vines. Bailey's numbers are very close to Vines, but Bailey spent a lot of time in less than hitter friendly parks.
5. Eric Brew, Tim Van Dyke, Steve Miller: All three had at least a .900 OPS, 1,600 RBI, between 497-526 HRs, a minimum of 7 ASGs, and all had at least 1 MVP.
Second Base: Sean Vogel
1. Sean Vogel: Next.
2. Bart Ahearn: Nearly 3,200 hits, over 800 SBs, and a couple of GGs probably means he needs to be on the team someway, somehow.
3. Matt McArthur: Hit .324 and nearly 2,800 hits in an era where longevity was zapped.
Third Base: ???
1. Philip Warner: Though in the HOF as a 2B, he did play more games at 3B. 565 HRs and over 1,600 RBI do a lot of talking. Does it matter that he only had an .800 OPS?
2. Glen Milton: He was certainly great, no doubt. However, he was a natural position change, so I don't hold his GGs with an validity as he was only so-so before the change. I won't be selecting him for my team as his numbers would have to impress at 1B for me to select him.
3. Jose Vargas: If Vogel didn't drive them in, Vargas would. And even if Vogel drove 'em in, Vargas was still going to hit a solo shot. Nearly 550 HRs and over 1,500 RBI is damn impressive.
4. Marv Eason: He played second (or maybe even third) fiddle to some of the great hitters in that Reds lineup. He doesn't have the gaudy HR totals, but a consistent threat with a .291 AVG and .872 OPS.
Short Stop: ??? and Peter Conwell
Peter Conwell had some of the best steal and scoring prowess that the league has ever seen. He's a definite player to be added (whether it's the starter or backup) After that, I think it's a toss up, so I'm very willing to hear your thoughts for the other one or two SS.
Catcher: DeMichael Thomas and Jeff Hainsworth
I think this position is easy. Hainsworth had a unique blend of bat, defense, and speed. He has our highest catching OPS and he won a trio of MVPs. If not Hainsworth, then Thomas might be our best catcher ever. He put up torrid numbers while playing in a pitcher's paradise of Florida. If he played in a hitter's park, he may have tangoed with 3,000 hits.
First Base: Jamie Archiega and ??? (after Archy, I'm unsure)
1. I don't think any of the Vet Committe players make it. There are other players with more compelling milestone numbers to go along with similar overall production numbers.
2. Kollars boasts nearly 3,000 hits, is #2 in all-time RBI, and had over 1,100 extra base hits. He makes a VERY strong case.
3. Dan Vines is on our Mount Rushmore (and has 7 MVPs), but I have to wonder if the hitting park of Cincy will knock his skills down enough to not translate better than one of the others.
4. Mickey Bailey: This may very well be the type of player that I'm referring to with Vines. Bailey's numbers are very close to Vines, but Bailey spent a lot of time in less than hitter friendly parks.
5. Eric Brew, Tim Van Dyke, Steve Miller: All three had at least a .900 OPS, 1,600 RBI, between 497-526 HRs, a minimum of 7 ASGs, and all had at least 1 MVP.
Second Base: Sean Vogel
1. Sean Vogel: Next.
2. Bart Ahearn: Nearly 3,200 hits, over 800 SBs, and a couple of GGs probably means he needs to be on the team someway, somehow.
3. Matt McArthur: Hit .324 and nearly 2,800 hits in an era where longevity was zapped.
Third Base: ???
1. Philip Warner: Though in the HOF as a 2B, he did play more games at 3B. 565 HRs and over 1,600 RBI do a lot of talking. Does it matter that he only had an .800 OPS?
2. Glen Milton: He was certainly great, no doubt. However, he was a natural position change, so I don't hold his GGs with an validity as he was only so-so before the change. I won't be selecting him for my team as his numbers would have to impress at 1B for me to select him.
3. Jose Vargas: If Vogel didn't drive them in, Vargas would. And even if Vogel drove 'em in, Vargas was still going to hit a solo shot. Nearly 550 HRs and over 1,500 RBI is damn impressive.
4. Marv Eason: He played second (or maybe even third) fiddle to some of the great hitters in that Reds lineup. He doesn't have the gaudy HR totals, but a consistent threat with a .291 AVG and .872 OPS.
Short Stop: ??? and Peter Conwell
Peter Conwell had some of the best steal and scoring prowess that the league has ever seen. He's a definite player to be added (whether it's the starter or backup) After that, I think it's a toss up, so I'm very willing to hear your thoughts for the other one or two SS.
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