The Fuck You Campaign

[icedragon770]

I think you need to rethink something Stang. No player is about loyalty. The only thing the are loyal to is the money. The only way players really give a diascount for is if they love the city but that only really applies if they are winning. Also a player is only "loyal" if you are the NE Patriots of baseball where the team mentaloity takes precident. So they figure than win their by taking a bit less money. The agent is supposed to milk you. If you don't highlight other points about your club and just focus on money then why should the player and his agent do any different? As far as other teams making rediculous deals highlight how much of an idiot that other GM was or explain that your not names the Yankees.

As far as Chris goes he could be on to something about consistentcy.

And anyone who complains about how long it takes with pm's maybe the agent wants to make you sweat a bit and squirm. I mean if your just starting talks about the player when the seaoson is almost over he should make you sweat a little to try and milk you for every last penny.

Well, you are partially right, and partially wrong.. Take for instance my employer, Atlanta Braves.. While your argument of players are loyal to winning teams are mostly correct, look at the braves in the 90's. John Smoltz, Greg Maddux, even Chipper Jones had MANY opportunities to leave for more money, and while they still got their money from the braves, there were plenty of other teams that would have easily paid them way more to pry them away... and there are other players that are loyal to their team, Trevor Hoffman on the padres, for 75% of the time he was there, they were awful.. Mark Grace, Ryne Sandberg, Cal Ripken, Todd Helton, Bagwell, Biggio, even as far back as George Brett were all loyal to there teams and most of their teams were awful.. there are plenty more players like this.. There is more loyalty to a team and city than you think.. While money plays a huge part, no doubt, but location, love of the city, fans, school systems for their kids, everyday normal things me and you have to deal with plays a role in it as well.. But this is a business, and the player AND the team has to do whats best for them which sometimes ends these great relationships...

I think its pretty simple as far as this league goes, as i said before, the agents are going to have a number in mind based on previous deals. If you are a team trying to resign a player, dont set precedents and sign players to ridiculous contracts that eventually gives all the leverage to the agent. Stand pat, be smart with your money and budget. The more fair you are to your own teams finances and stand firm in what you believe is fair market for your player, the less leverage the agents will have, until then, Agents will run your budget...

i couldnt agreed more