White Sox

[AndyP]

I have nothing to hide, so here is what Clypse is posting elsewhere:

I'd just like to start off by apologizing to anyone that got named on this post. Guys like Peter, GB and others who were of obvious mention.

1) I'll be completely honest with y'all. I don't pay attention enough to whats happening in the league to know what "veto shit storms" are like. Hell, I didn't even see the Milton deal nor the Milton deal storm. I guess that's my fault for only caring about my team, though.

2) Yes, I was told by Andy not to post the trade. However, I threw in a piece to see if maybe i could get a few guys on my side to help it go through or even allow Andy to see he was protecting his "baby". Funny, seeing as those weren’t my words. My thoughts were "no harm, no foul" in posting the trade. Once again, the "veto shit storm" that happens in this league doesn't seem that apparent. If it happens behind closed doors then what more am I supposed to expect? After I had posted the trade, I did understand what the shit storm was like as I was in the middle of it with Andy. I logged off, came back and apologized. I felt bad for going off on him about the trade. I'm here to win. That's the only reason why I play mogul. It is fun, yes but it's just my competitive nature to win.

3) I understand what the veto was about. It made sense. He has to protect Theo because he is new to mogul and the league. I was even told at one point "Maybe Andy has finally let up on Theo". This to me meant "funk it", green light. Rest of this part was just the micromanaging that Theo needed.

4) This statement was completely misconstrued. Here's the thing, I did say "most" of the league was in opposition of him. However, It wasn't most as it was just a few guys that came to me of support. Which apparently were all turned against me because Andy told me "not to post it". lol I did infact tell him that most of the league believes that he is a cheater. I did rescind that comment later on as I told him it wasn't "most of the league" but there were a few guys in the league and outside of the league that has brought it up to me in the past. I still think its funny that you truly believe you're accusationless in this subject. I did NOT say that most of the league believed he was a dictator or that he could do whatever he wanted. I called him a dictator for a few reasons.

A. He told me "Not to post the trade" and when I did, he publically trashed my players. Then said, "its your fault".
B. The reason why i argued with him about publically trashing my players is because of my credibility as a GM. Also my players. Once again, my voice did not matter in the instance as i was continued to be called a "moron".

I did say the "yes men" thing. I don't regret that at all. If you don't feel you're a "yes man" then you aren't. That's not hard to get understand.

I never accused him of making his players drop. I only complained about my players dropping as more than half my ML team last year took dives. Woodbury was like a 91 to begin the season and we sit this year at 77. Thats my own problem. Never did i accuse him of that. Idk why you said it that way.

I never once mentioned any names. Peter and GB you were NEVER mentioned in any of this context. He himself posted the names. Still don't understand why.

I did "accuse" him of "purposefully keeping some GMs down". I wonder why he never put any names there. I'm not the only one that feels this way.

I didn't directly accuse him of only caring about himself and pretending about the league. The main thing I brought up was as an admin he should be looking out for all GMs and their credibility as players in this league. I feel like i was not taken care of in the slightest. All because i was TOLD not too. lol

I feel he was over-dramatic about the trade and the veto, yes.

I did purposely get that deal to go through so you'd maybe understand what i was going through. Guess not.

Sure, I did break the camel's back with that statement. However, it came at the end of the argument when he wanted to tell me all of his sacrifices that he's making for the league. I'm glad you love the league so much that you're willing to do the things you named to me in private. I do however think its crazy to try and lay them on me in an attempt of pity because I'm still here trying to get my credibility back as a GM.

For my final reply...I had no problem with the actual veto after awhile. I was stupid for going after him in private about it. I apologized, however the next day it became apparent of how much everyone thinks of Andy and his stamp of approval. I shopped my guys to a few other teams(Who even had interest before) to get the cold shoulder or replied with the "Shiny turd" comment. At this point it became clear to me that I could almost do nothing in terms of furthering my team in their championship run. Andy, to this league you are the twitter guy with 1Million followers and you should know its your responsibility for the stuff you put out. I feel you were irresponsible in calling out my farm because you were "Upset" about me not following your orders. Your orders, dude....I didn't follow your orders and i get trashed. But that's my fault. Is that not what a dictator does? lol I like how when I brought that up he brought up how many GMs he's fired. Goodness, your perception seems to be lost. Anyways, you continually say "i begged him not to post it". I'm sorry man but you never "Begged" me. You said it one time that it was gonna be vetoed. Also, you actually never told me directly to post the trade but that's fine. I don't want to sound like I'm nitpicking.

Hilariously enough, this won't be seen by half the guys in this league but I'll make it my duty to get it out as far as I can. Why? My credibility as a GM means a lot to me. I apologize for any disparaging remarks that were made to you Andy, but I will NOT apologize for doing my best to fight the machine for my own credibility. All because i didn't follow your orders. That's sad man. Everything in this post is true and if Andy wants to show off screenshots then so be it. There's not much else to say. I apologize to the league if you felt you were pointed out or felt that the way I was portrayed made you all out to seem like jackasses but hey. That's not my perception. I've become good friends with a lot of people here and I hope to see you all around. Some i will as we are in other leagues but thats fine.

Thanks for the fun times and i hope Vert can continue competing with my team.

To clarify:

1) The "piece" thrown in was Daland. You make your own call about his "talent".

2) I do show care for all GMs which is why I did all of the following things for Clypse:

a) He missed two consecutive resignings where I did them for him, allowed him to change anything I did, and gave no penalty. In fact, I believe I said something to the effect of "it happens, no worries"

Strange thing for me to do if I'm such a jerk huh/

b) frequently helped advise his team from stadium lay out, drafting, development, and roster construction

c) Asked him not to post a trade that would create a situation in which I necessarily was going to have to say negative things about the value of the offer which would imply the pieces he gave up weren't valuable. Every trade veto and explanation comes with a host of problems, among which are forcing other GMs to talk about how they view players in the package.

So for selfish and unselfish reasons I asked him not to post it. He chose not to listen. Then he chose to further complicate the issue days later with an immature, unnecessary rant and posted trade. At some point, grow up. The situation was your own doing, accept the results or be actually sorry for causing them.