Red Sox land Adrian Gonzalez

'PR' · (This post was last modified: 12-09-2010, 08:13 PM by 'PR'.)

(12-09-2010, 07:25 PM)Jordan Wrote: You should - if Tampa can continue to compete next season then Joe Maddon deserves manager of the decade award.

For 3 years of competition with a team that was pretty damn talented and no championships to boot? Ron Gardenhire, Tony Larusa, Terry Francona, Joe Torre and Mike Soscia deserve Manager of The Decade more so than Maddon. He gets too much credit for what the Rays have done IMO. The players are 75% of the reason the Rays have been dominate, the front office is 24.9% of the reason they have been dominate, Maddon and the coaches are .1% of the reason they have been dominate.

(12-09-2010, 07:27 PM)Jordan Wrote: And now your throwing money at Russell Martin!?!? What did you guys do? rob the bank?

Martin won't cost much......and we need a catcher who can hit lefties well. I hope we don't sign Martin though. I really want Varitek to get more time behind the plate.

(12-09-2010, 07:25 PM)Jordan Wrote: Unless we sign Lee, I would predict the Red Sox to win the division.

Hell no we won't win the division. Not if our 'pen and staff other than Lester, Bard and Buchholz pitches like they did this past season and not if our team can't stay healthy like the didn't last season.

Jordan · 12-09-2010, 09:11 PM

(12-09-2010, 08:07 PM)Mstrpr626 Wrote:
(12-09-2010, 07:25 PM)Jordan Wrote: You should - if Tampa can continue to compete next season then Joe Maddon deserves manager of the decade award.

For 3 years of competition with a team that was pretty damn talented and no championships to boot? Ron Gardenhire, Tony Larusa, Terry Francona, Joe Torre and Mike Soscia deserve Manager of The Decade more so than Maddon. He gets too much credit for what the Rays have done IMO. The players are 75% of the reason the Rays have been dominate, the front office is 24.9% of the reason they have been dominate, Maddon and the coaches are .1% of the reason they have been dominate.

Well exactly - thats why I am saying if he can get it done this year without Crawford, Pena, Soriano and who ever else left.

'PR' · 12-09-2010, 09:36 PM

(12-09-2010, 09:11 PM)Jordan Wrote:
(12-09-2010, 08:07 PM)Mstrpr626 Wrote:
(12-09-2010, 07:25 PM)Jordan Wrote: You should - if Tampa can continue to compete next season then Joe Maddon deserves manager of the decade award.

For 3 years of competition with a team that was pretty damn talented and no championships to boot? Ron Gardenhire, Tony Larusa, Terry Francona, Joe Torre and Mike Soscia deserve Manager of The Decade more so than Maddon. He gets too much credit for what the Rays have done IMO. The players are 75% of the reason the Rays have been dominate, the front office is 24.9% of the reason they have been dominate, Maddon and the coaches are .1% of the reason they have been dominate.

Well exactly - thats why I am saying if he can get it done this year without Crawford, Pena, Soriano and who ever else left.

Then why would you say Manager of The Decade and not Manager of The Year.

Jordan · 12-09-2010, 09:54 PM

Because it was one of the worst teams in baseball before he came.

'PR' · (This post was last modified: 12-09-2010, 10:03 PM by 'PR'.)

(12-09-2010, 09:54 PM)Jordan Wrote: Because it was one of the worst teams in baseball before he came.

As well as before Longo, Bartlett, Garza, Shields, Balfour, and Pena all became good players......

Jordan · 12-10-2010, 07:33 PM

eh. I don't really feel like continuing to argue this but I wouldn't consider those players to be that good. Except for Longoria. Bartlett is an average infielder, Shields has been iffy