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Baltimore Recieves:
Jonas Stendall RP 83/86 26yr 500k '38
Los Angeles Recieves:
Brian Kingery SP 89 29yr 6.7m '37
We accept we gain a good bullpen arm for a guy that is odd man out atm.
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Trade a reliever for a Starting Pitcher, add salary but I have the cap room to handle it and this gets me closer to a ring.
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Veto,
Stendall Is a highly sought out piece here and kingery is destined for the waiver wire. Kingery Doesnt even make your rotation Nate im not sure what your thinking is here
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I have a hard time with this one. I don't believe Kingery is as bad as some make him out to be, but he's definitely overrated and not the piece to solidify a WS team. I'll also admit that for what Stendall has done so far, he has in no way played up to his vitals.
Then with knowing LAA wants to further "upgrade" the rotation I have to wonder why in the hell if Kingery is valued where LAA upgrades? It's certainly not over Horton or Williams. That leaves Mantle and Robinson. There's not a damn thing wrong with Mantle's season or track record. So that much mean the "upgrade" would could over Robinson. I must assume it's because he's rated 84. Otherwise, conventional wisdom and looking at his stats say he's damn good. His career 3.18 ERA ain't too shabby. And sure, he has a 4.47 ERA so far this season, but he's got a 2.54 ERA in his past 8 starts.
It all just seems like splitting hairs. Not to mention that many people are seeking solid RPs and would be willing to overlook Stendall's mediocre performance thus far in hopes he eventually pitches up to his vitals. In the end it looks like a new GM rushing into things before he knows the entirety of the situation.
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He replaces my 82 OVR SP with bad vitals, not sure how this is a veto-able trade, trade a RP with bad stats for a SP with not as bad stats when you look deeper.
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You cant Veto based on the fact that you dont like the SP personally that is crap.
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BTW, please don't tell me who does or doesn't make my rotation, he does in fact make my rotation.
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(05-12-2013, 04:35 PM)ARC_Troopa_Nate Wrote: He replaces my 82 OVR SP with bad vitals, not sure how this is a veto-able trade, trade a RP with bad stats for a SP with not as bad stats when you look deeper.
Who's the one with bad stats and not so bad stats?
Kingery: 7.26 K/9, 5.66 BB/9, .306 OBA, 1.16 HR/9
Stendall: 6.06 K/9, 2.27 BB/9, .248 OBA, 0.50 HR/9
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Not really looking at single season stats but if you want to GM for me that's cool.
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Yeah, veto. Kingery is garbage and RP is too valuable. Nate and I have talked, he's cool with a veto here.
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