Re-Signing Posting Failure

[mattynokes]

In lieu of what's happened tonight, it's made me see that we have no concrete plan of action of what to do if a team fails to get their re-signings turned in. I believe in the past we've simply released any player up for a new contract if someone didn't turn in re-signings. For that fact that something unexpected could have came up or the possibility that the team may be opened up, I don't think this is the right course of action. Here's what I feel should happen...

If you fail to turn in re-signings you are subject, but not limited to:

1. Any player up for Free Agency will be released.
2. Any player up for Arbitration will be extended at their asking price.
3. Any player up for the 1.33 Arbitration rule will be extended for a 1.5x price of their last arbitration contract.
4. You will not be able to freely release any Arbitration players that you did not want to release.
5. Teams may be fined in the form of cash and/or draft picks.

This does not decimate a team by losing all of their contract eligible players. It does however ensure that any Free Agent eligible player is let go. They're also penalized by being force to retain Arbitration eligible players they may not want (also the extra price for retaining players for a 6th year of arbitration). If teams are repeat offers or possibly aren't penalized much by not turning in their re-signings they're subject to cash/draft pick reductions.

[mike]

IMO you are being way too nice. You miss Re-signings you should be out of the league and not welcomed back. There's nothing worse than not posting your extensions as in most cases like you said players are just cut, or its up to the person doing the file to make GM decisions for that team. Now if there was an emergency or your on vavaction and what have you then sure they shouldn't get booted. I'm talking about th epeople who are just too plain lazy to check the site every couple of days.

[mattynokes]

Whether they're let back or not, we shouldn't penalize the new GM by releasing everyone. And how can we know for sure if someone is being lazy or seriously had an emergency? It's easy to fake things on the internet.

[AndyP]

We also stomp the gas at the end of the year and don't leave a lot of time for resignings. All you have to do is miss basically 1.5 days and you can miss this.

No reason to be communists about it - we don't want to drive people out.

[mattynokes]

We also stomp the gas at the end of the year and don't leave a lot of time for resignings. All you have to do is miss basically 1.5 days and you can miss this.

No reason to be communists about it - we don't want to drive people out.

This is another thing.

We're allowing more time before FAs can sign (72 hours) than we gave teams to get their re-signings in (about 44 hours). Plus consider the re-signing file was posted at midnight ET, so that's probably another 8-10 hours (maybe even until the evening the following day) before the majority of the league saw the file.

It's like we're still "all jacked up on Mountain Dew" from the daily sims to end the season. I know the majority like things to go swiftly, but it's a good thing to take your time in off-season rather than rushing through things.

[dejota]

Two things from my end.

-I haven't placed specific rules on missing resignings since I think everything about that scenario is rather subject. Which GM, his recent activity history, the specific teams place in the market/division/league, and the players' situations are all unique are all things that vary on a case-by-case basis. I think it's well understood that's the one thing you cannot miss in FCM without risking immediate dismissal from your team. I also think it's important we handle those scenarios as if they were my or an admins team and we try and get them the most reasonable results possible. I think extra penalty lies in the fact we have to up our arby submission to try and make sure the player doesn't win. We don't rerun the files for missing resignings. Between the two I think we have a satisfactory deterrent to missing them and we don't pigeon hole teams who are already receiving some form of neglect if the resignings file is missing.

-As far as the timing goes there's a widening gap between guys who want us to run fast and guys who want us to run at a more leisurely pace. I think there should be more than a week between the playoff sim of one year and the 1st sim of the next year. I'd really like a league wide consensus found on this b/c there are guys on both sides of the subject. Obviuosly I move at a turtle's pace in the offseason so the slower the better for me.

[AndyP]

Well I think there are a couple things to discuss there:

1) I've always said we should just sim ahead to ST unless it drops the ratings of FA. There is no reason not to.

2) I'm ok with the pace we're moving at, but where the playoff sim fell and the subsequent timing of the FA file was not the best for everyone. I think we have to be flexible to the fact that we can't always push things a certain number of days. IMO - we should have done the playoff sim on a regular sim night (Friday) and then realeased the FA file Sunday. I don't think we should ever do a draft, playoff sim, or other major file release on a day that isn't a normal sim today. If we do, we risk these issues.

[mike]

i like a slow moving offseason as far as once the FA file is released.