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Type A/B Compensation - dejota - 08-19-2010
Okay since it's been an often discussed topic here is my efforts to bring you compensation based on statistics. Here's my plan and how it would've shaken out this offseason for catchers. If you guys like I continue, if not we go to basic rules.
This is easy b/c it's just copying and pasting in excel. Here we go:
Okay elias is way too complicated to do. It would require so much work I don't think anybody is willing to put in the hours.
So here's my proposition -
Group like Elias; NL and AL (C, 1B/OF/DH, 2B/3B/SS, SP, RP)
Ten Total Groups.
NOTE: All formulas are intended to produce a number 70-110
Catcher Formula - ( (OPS*50) + ((HR+RBI)/4) + (PA/24) + (Assists/3) )
OPS is intended to be worth about half the total number, HR/RBI is intended to represent power and 1/4 of the formula with PA and Defense intended to count for the final quarter.
Here's how the rankings would've shaken out last season
Quote:Player Name Overall PA HR RBI A OPS 2012 Rating 2013 Rating Overall
Teagarden, Taylor 93 587 41 108 39 0.96 122.708333333333 101.333333333333 112.020833333333
Santana, Carlos 97 631 25 83 29 0.838 104.858333333333 115.858333333333 110.358333333333
Mauer, Joe 95 614 18 93 51 0.854 113.033333333333 102.125 107.579166666667
Ramos, Wilson 92 711 31 105 0 0.94 110.625 100.291666666667 105.458333333333
May, Lucas 95 575 15 78 47 0.741 99.925 105.733333333333 102.829166666667
Soto, Geovany 87 589 26 97 39 0.897 113.141666666667 89.2166666666667 101.179166666667
Castillo, Welington 92 516 17 82 31 0.817 97.4333333333333 98.3666666666667 97.9
Lucroy, Jon 95 513 13 60 33 0.803 90.775 103.541666666667 97.1583333333333
Montero, Jesus 90 570 13 64 41 0.827 98.0166666666667 94.3833333333333 96.2
Montero, Miguel 86 620 24 97 26 0.757 102.6 86.9666666666667 94.7833333333333
Castro, Jason 93 485 11 58 11 0.845 83.375 101.533333333333 92.4541666666666
Posey, Buster 85 517 14 74 29 0.868 96.6083333333334 86.775 91.6916666666667
Anderson, Bryan 88 536 15 43 32 0.825 88.75 89.7666666666667 89.2583333333333
Notes:
Top 5 = Type A and 6-10 = Type B
After Anderson there's a 7 point drop off. Castro, Posey and Anderson would not be compensated.
Not split into AL/NL, might not be needed especially for catchers.
The rest of the positions to come...
RE: Type A/B Compensation - mike - 08-19-2010
I like the idea. It will add another element to the strategy. Like take Ward last year for example. You could try and sign guys that you thik may perform well just to help you get some type B or A comp. Te only thing I don't like is having defense accounted for. It's too hard to really measure defensive worth. Maybe if you can weight it less than the other 3 quarters.
RE: Type A/B Compensation - dejota - 08-19-2010
It's the catchers and it's weight, is on average, less than 10% of the total formula. It's also designed to only really reward you if you throw a ridiculous number of players out. 60+ you get 20 points, 40ish you get 15 and at 30 assists you're only getting 10.
RE: Type A/B Compensation - 'PR' - 08-19-2010
I like the idea.....but feel the same way as chuck about it. If you need any help with the subject I'd be happy to help. Thnx for taking out the time to think of a great plan.
RE: Type A/B Compensation - dejota - 08-19-2010
This is just the first group too, the formula for catcher won't be the same as for 1B/DH/OF, 2B/SS/3B and Pitching.
RE: Type A/B Compensation - dejota - 08-20-2010
bump, still would like some more feedback.
RE: Type A/B Compensation - ezpkns34 - 08-20-2010
If you're willing to do the work to figure it out, I'm down for implementing it
I assume this won't affect the agent system though? Like it won't become Type As only need agents, but will remain 90+ overalls need agents?
Also, if this is implemented, maybe Type A's with 90+ overall need to be signed through the agent, but other Type A's can be signed via bidding war? Just a thought
RE: Type A/B Compensation - AndyP - 08-20-2010
Are we going to do the prior season's worth of data or several seasons? It's great when you're the beneficiary of one fluke year, but is that what we want to promote? Just food for thought.
RE: Type A/B Compensation - dejota - 08-20-2010
Previous two years, like in the example.
Agents would still only be for 90s players, but we are going to implement the rule of not allowing extensions until a player has over 5 years mlb service time.
RE: Type A/B Compensation - GoIrish - 08-20-2010
All of this sounds great, let me know if you need any help or anyone to spit ball ideas off of.
Sean