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2045 Voting Class - AndyP - 03-27-2014
The following players will be on the list:
Brian Holloway 2B
Frank Prywes LF
James Aitkenhead LF
Matt McArthur 2B
Tim Vandyke 1B
Steve Miller 1B
Thomas Neal 1B
Lars Anderson 1B
Rob Wood RP
Alan Jackson RP
Alejandro Castilla SP
Boris Turner SP
Donovan Pace SP
Brian Colley SP
Ryan Christner SP
Joe Arnold SP
Fletcher Conyers SP
Julio Teheran SP
Steve Eickholt SP
Brett Hunter SP
Josh Lindblom SP
Blake Beavan SP
Michael Stutes SP
James Threadgold RP
Gary Kirsopp RP
Peter Potter SS
Jose Rabena 1B
Jay Sullivan 2B
Art McMath 1B
Mike Gartner RF
Peter Conwell SS
Rafeal Romero CF
Mike Capestany 1B
Michael Grier 1B
Mark McShane 3B
Sean Vogel 3B
Will Lussier LF
Manuel Tobon LF
Antonio Candelalia LF
Steve Chausse 1B
Peter Helm CF
Bruce Verbos LF
Marc Ramming C
Chris Jackson LF
Kurtis Pounds CF
Philip MacGruer CF
Murray McManaman CF
Jamie Marinkovich CF
Joel Block SS
Patrick Tuyet SP
Chris Munroe DH
Jeff Trembath SP
Brian Becker SS
Santos Macies SP
RE: 2045 Voting Class - AndyP - 03-27-2014
This is a work in progress....please feel free to add names!
RE: 2045 Voting Class - Jordan - 03-27-2014
This is brilliant. And all names I know! haha
RE: 2045 Voting Class - mattynokes - 03-31-2014
The list is now final. This includes all FCM Mogul HOFers. I think it's best that their in-game HOF status be left out, but I will say that I encourage voters to recognize that going 15 seasons in FCM in the 2010s and 2020s was probably as impressive as going 20 seasons in the current, 2040s.
I left off C Ramming and LF Tobon because they have no accolades and only have 2,000 hits as any impressive. Lussier was also left off since he had 1,500 hits and not even 300 HR or 1,000 RBI.
C Josh Jarmel (CHW) – 13 Seasons (2031)
1,921 Hits 938 R 393 2B 258 HR 1,018 RBI 472 BB 28 SB .282/.343/.463
5 All-Star Games, 3 Gold Gloves
C Gabriel Gamora (COL) – 15 Seasons (2032)
1,858 Hits 921 R 367 2B 277 HR 1,162 RBI 602 BB 7 SB .277/.338/.462
5 All-Star Games, 4 Gold Gloves
C Todd Becker (LAA) – 14 Seasons (2039)
1,800 Hits 783 R 339 2B 149 HR 1,007 RBI 278 BB 14 SB .307/.347/.454
7 All-Star Games
C Keith Thiel (NYM) – 14 Seasons (2044)
1,555 Hits 827 R 315 2B 156 HR 714 RBI 791 RBI 44 SB .301/.398/.463
3 All-Star Games, 1 Gold Glove
1B Thomas Neal (SFG) – 14 Seasons (2025)
1,892 Hits 1,208 R 417 2B 370 HR 1,279 RBI 1,074BB .292/.394/.540
6 All-Star Games 2 MVP Awards
1B Lars Anderson (DET) – 14 Seasons (2025)
2,048 Hits 1,200 R 436 2B 412 HR 1,347 RBI 1,153 BB .311/.415/.574
8 All-Star Games, 5 MVP Awards
1B Steve Miller (CIN) – 16 Seasons (2032)
2,506 Hits 1,388 R 414 2B 514 HR 1,630 RBI 988 BB 30 SB .310/.386/.560
11 All-Star Games, 3 MVP Awards, 5 Gold Gloves
1B Manny Capestany (WSN) – 16 Seasons (2032)
1,984 Hits 1,260 R 390 2B 470 HR 1,363 RBI 1,185 BB 42 SB .264/.367/.510
4 All-Star Games
1B Jose Rabena (COL) – 14 Seasons (2036)
1,578 Hits 1,165 R 340 2B 420 HR 1,257 RBI 1,397 BB 27 SB .268/.417/.543
3 All-Star Games, 1 MVP Award
1B Art McMath (SEA) – 15 Seasons (2036)
2,101 Hits 1,130 R 465 2B 415 HR 1,426 RBI 722 BB 23 SB .261/.324/.482
3 All-Star Games
1B Tim Vandyke (LAA) – 17 Seasons (2037)
2,131 Hits 1,271 R 455 2B 440 HR 1,551 RBI 4 SB .287/.373/.537
7 All-Star Games, 4 MVP Awards
1B Steve Chausse (PHI) – 14 Seasons (2042)
1,976 Hits 1,163 R 425 2B 392 HR 1,347 RBI 808 BB 32 SB .281/.356/.523
5 All-Star Games, 2 MVP Awards
1B Michael Grier (OAK) – 14 Seasons (2042)
1,991 Hits 1,119 R 413 2B 342 HR 1,244 RBI 802 BB 63 SB .284/.359/.507
4 All-Star Games, 1 MVP Award
2B Matt McArthur (CLE) – 16 Seasons (2031)
2,776 Hits 1,290 R 523 2B 92 HR 1,092 RBI 636 BB 246 SB .324/.376/.439
6 All-Star Games, 2 Gold Gloves
2B Brian Holloway (NYY) – 14 Seasons (2034)
2,059 Hits 1,051 R 288 2B 34 HR 648 BB 818 BB .320/.397/.393
1 All-Star Game
2B/SS Jay Sullivan (BAL) – 16 Seasons (2037)
2,712 Hits 1,215 R 500 2B 198 HR 1,252 RBI 570 BB 63 SB .306/.347/.444
10 All-Star Games, 3 Gold Gloves
2B/3B Sean Vogel (TOR) – 21 Seasons (2044)
2,761 Hits 1,630 R 614 2B 607 HR 2,167 RBI 884 BB 22 SB .301/.366/.586
14 All-Star Games, 5 MVP Awards, 5 Gold Gloves
3B Ed Edwards (TBR) – 16 Seasons (2031)
2,077 Hits 1,199 R 351 2B 323 HR 1,204 RBI 1,269 BB 62 SB .286/.391/.480
4 All-Star Games, 1 MVP Award
3B Aaron Wittmann (WSN) – 16 Seasons (2036)
1,918 Hits 1,252 R 336 2B 419 HR 1,276 RBI 1,217 BB 131 SB .257/.366/.475
2 All-Star Games 3 Gold Gloves
3B Marv Eason (CIN) – 21 Seasons (2041)
2,520 Hits 1,448 R 427 2B 369 HR 1,415 RBI 1,478 BB 43 SB .291/.393/.479
4 All-Star Games
3B Mark McShane (MIL) – 16 Seasons (2041)
1,784 Hits 1,192 R 389 2B 343 HR 1,083 BB 96 SB .299/.408/.552
8 All-Star Games, 1 MVP Award, 2 Gold Gloves
3B/2B/SS Margo Alvarez (COL) – 15 Seasons (2042)
2,141 Hits 1,071 R 453 2B 207 HR 1,086 RBI 679 BB 7 SB .295/.358/.455
3 All-Star Games
SS Rudy Delgado (CLE) – 16 Seasons (2030)
2,340 Hits 1,125 R 441 2B 143 HR 1,097 RBI 702 BB 110 SB .299/.366/.423
3 All-Star Games, 2 Gold Gloves
SS Larry MacPhater (CIN) – 15 Seasons (2035)
2,194 Hits 1,130 R 417 2B 83 HR 783 RBI 841 BB 201 SB .303/.376/.406
1 All-Star Game, 1 Gold Glove
SS Peter Conwell (HOU) – 14 Seasons (2035)
2,050 Hits 1,504 R 373 2B 270 HR 903 RBI 807 BB 765 SB .274/.347/.457
5 All-Star Games, 1 Gold Glove
SS Peter Potter (MIN) – 16 Seasons (2036)
2,253 Hits 1,099 R 376 2B 133 HR 913 RBI 438 BB 73 SB .301/.346/.416
4 All-Star Games, 1 Gold Glove
SS Brian Becker (STL) – 13 Seasons (2040)
1,629 Hits 1,040 R 347 2B 275 HR 960 RBI 31 SB .265/.376/.475
3 All-Star Games, 3 Gold Gloves
SS Joel Block (COL) – 16 Seasons (2041)
2,288 Hits 1,194 R 468 2B 66 HR 904 RBI 932 BB 181 SB .304/.382/.406
4 All-Star Games, 1 Gold Glove
LF James Aitkenhead (CHC) – 16 Seasons (2028)
2,337 Hits 1,346 R 510 2B 452 HR 1,588 RBI 980 BB 37 SB .292/.371/.539
7 All-Star Games, 2 MVP Awards, 2 Gold Gloves
LF Manuel Varqas (WSN) – 14 Seasons (2031)
1,781 Hits 1,084 R 341 2B 375 HR 1,107 RBI 552 BB 147 SB .271/.333/.516
3 All-Star Games, 2 MVP Awards, 1 Gold Glove
LF/RF Frank Prywes (HOU) – 16 Seasons (2032)
2,288 Hits 1,189 R 526 2B 346 HR 1,411 RBI 947 BB 12 SB .305/.381/.523
7 All-Star Games, 2 MVP Awards
LF Kurtis Pounds (OAK) – 18 Seasons (2042)
2,579 Hits 1,218 R 414 2B 75 HR 848 RBI 800 BB 234 SB .312/.376/.395
2 All-Star Games, 1 Gold Glove
LF/CF Philip MacGruer (TOR) – 16 Seasons (2042)
2,543 Hits 1,490 R 513 2B 210 HR 1,371 RBI 638 BB 692 SB .305/.359/.465
6 All-Star Games, 3 Gold Gloves
LF/CF Antonio Candelalia (LAA) – 16 Seasons (2044)
2,439 Hits 1,229 R 478 2B 276 HR 1,417 RBI 847 BB 102 SB .302/.370/.477
2 All-Star Games, 1 MVP Award, 2 Gold Gloves
CF Rafael Romero (CHC) – 15 Seasons (2032)
2,226 Hits 1,439 R 403 2B 100 HR 751 RBI 1,001 BB 811 SB .302/.385/.417
2 All-Star Games, 1 Gold Glove
CF Murray McManaman – 14 Seasons (2041)
1,682 Hits 1,164 R 293 2B 443 HR 1,297 RBI 999 BB 95 SB .233/.329/.470
1 All-Star Games, 2 Gold Gloves
CF Peter Helm (KCR) – 15 Seasons (2043)
2,470 Hits 1,325 R 412 2B 65 HR 726 RBI 569 BB 487 SB .322/.370/.418
3 Gold Gloves
RF/CF Joaquin Murillo (NYY) – 13 Seasons (2033)
2,117 Hits 1,309 R 440 2B 245 HR 1,165 RBI 944 BB 220 SB .285/.368/.470
4 All-Star Games, 1 MVP Award, 1 Gold Glove
RF Mike Gartner (CIN) – 15 Seasons (2036)
2,106 Hits 1,275 R 399 2B 384 HR 1,357 RBI 76 SB .299/.392/.535
7 All-Star Games, 1 MVP Award, 4 Gold Gloves
RF Gary Drye (BOS) – 15 Seasons (2038)
2,052 Hits 1,144 R 438 2B 301 HR 1,171 RBI 810 BB 148 SB .308/.386/.528
6 All-Star Games
RF/CF Jamie Marinkovich (FLA) – 16 Seasons (2041)
2,690 Hits 1,375 R 414 2B 61 HR 899 RBI 687 BB 486 SB .319/.374/.403
3 Gold Gloves
RF/1B/LF Chris Taylor (CLE) – 16 Seasons (2041)
2,053 Hits 1,237 R 417 2B 424 HR 1,392 RBI 1,126 BB 9 SB .284/.380/.531
6 All-Star Games, 1 MVP Award
DH Chris Munroe (TOR) – 15 Seasons (2039)
1,765 Hits 1,218 R 398 2B 427 HR 1,265 RBI 1,190 BB 20 SB .257/.368/.513
4 All-Star Games
SP Michael Stutes (PHI/NYY) – 14 Seasons (2024)
161-97 Record 3.27 ERA 0.87 HR/9 2.90 BB/9 9.22 K/9 .222 OBA
8 All-Star Games, 1 Cy Young Awards, 1 Gold Glove
SP Steve Eickholt (TOR) – 15 Seasons (2028)
194-108 Record 3.80 ERA 0.98 HR/9 2.00 BB/9 8.24 K/9 .242 OBA
7 All-Star Games, 1 Cy Young Award
SP Josh Lindblom (HOU) – 18 Seasons (2028)
241-90 Record 3.06 ERA 0.51 HR/9 2.24 BB/9 8.72 K/9 .229 OBA
7 All-Star Games, 2 Cy Young Awards
SP Blake Beavan (NYY) – 17 Seasons (2029)
218-126 Record 3.35 ERA 1.17 HR/9 1.14 BB/9 8.19 K/9 .232 OBA
7 All-Star Games, 1 Gold Glove
SP Fletcher Conyers (SEA) – 14 Seasons (2029)
155-72 Record 3.29 ERA 0.90 HR/9 3.06 BB/9 9.72 K/9 .214 OBA
8 All-Star Games, 2 Cy Young Awards
SP Brett Hunter (FLA) – 17 Seasons (2029)
220-94 Record 2.62 ERA 0.51 HR/9 2.21 BB/9 7.06 K/9 .219 OBA
9 All-Star Games
SP Edgar Vaio (SFG) – 17 Seasons (2030)
186-108 Record 3.50 ERA 0.80 HR/9 1.36 BB/9 5.41 K/9 .257 OBA
2 All-Star Games, 1 Cy Young Award
SP Julio Teheran (MIL) – 19 Seasons (2030)
237-149 Record 3.37 ERA 0.84 HR/9 1.57 BB/9 7.27 K/9 .239 OBA
6 All-Star Games
SP Donovan Pace (FLA) – 21 Seasons (2031)
352-117 Record 2.55 ERA 0.80 HR/9 1.66 BB/9 8.73 K/9 .202 OBA
17 All-Star Games, 9 Cy Young Awards, 3 Gold gloves
SP Boris Turner (CLE) – 16 Seasons (2031)
192-123 Record 3.73 ERA 1.08 HR/9 1.79 BB/9 7.34 K/9 .244 OBA
8 All-Star Games 1 Cy Young Award 2 Gold Gloves
SP Max Roberts (TOR) – 16 Seasons (2031)
175-113 Record 3.26 ERA 0.76 HR/9 2.49 BB/9 5.94 K/9 .238 OBA
5 All-Star Games
SP Jeff Wych (STL) – 15 Seasons (2032)
157-130 Record 3.58 ERA 0.84 HR/9 3.60 BB/9 9.09 K/9 .220 OBA
4 All-Star Games
SP Corey Bosworth (TOR) – 20 Seasons (2033)
256-80 Record 3.04 ERA 0.63 HR/9 2.25 BB/9 7.10 K/9 .231 OBA
9 All-Star Games, 4 Cy Young Awards
SP Joe Arnold (CHC) – 15 Seasons (2034)
187-95 Record 3.21 ERA 0.57 HR/9 2.74 BB/9 6.30 K/9 .244 OBA
7 All-Star Games, 1 Gold Glove
SP Brian Colley (DET) – 22 Seasons (2036)
288-183 Record 3.57 ERA 0.88 HR/9 2.75 BB/9 8.82 K/9 .225 OBA
SP Ryan Christner (CHW/COL) – 18 Seasons (2036)
172-114 Record 3.34 ERA 0.79 HR/9 2.69 BB/9 6.22 K/9 .244 OBA
5 All-Star Games, 1 Cy Young Award
SP Kurt Woodcock (HOU) – 15 Seasons (2038)
181-98 Record 3.33 ERA 0.75 HR/9 1.78 BB/9 6.13 K/9 .238 OBA
3 All-Star Games
SP Alejandro Castilla (TOR) – 16 Seasons (2038)
243-105 Record 3.59 ERA 1.10 HR/9 1.95 BB/9 6.79 K/9 .238 OBA
9 All-Star Games, 1 Cy Young Award, 2 Gold Gloves
SP Jacob Widdup (CHC) – 25 Seasons (2039)
292-160 Record 3.34 ERA 0.61 HR/9 2.53 BB/9 8.30 K/9 .236 OBA
12 All-Star Games, 1 Cy Young Award, 1 Gold Glove
SP Jeff Trembath (DET) – 18 Seasons (2039)
241-176 Record 3.78 ERA 1.05 HR/9 2.43 BB/9 8.07 K/9 .239 OBA
7 All-Star Games
SP Patrick Tuyet (CHW) – 17 Seasons (2039)
244-145 Record 3.54 ERA 0.84 HR/9 1.70 BB/9 7.01 K/9 .250 OBA
9 All-Star Games, 1 Cy Young Award, 1 Gold Glove
SP Santos Macies (KCR) – 17 Seasons (2040)
211-118 Record 3.31 ERA 0.57 HR/9 2.90 BB/9 8.80 K/9 .221 OBA
10 All-Star Games, 1 Cy Young Award
SP Brian Smith (FLA) – 16 Seasons (2041)
229-96 Record 3.34 ERA 1.05 HR/9 2.19 BB/9 8.56 K/9 .224 OBA
9 All-Star Games, 1 Cy Young Award
SP Jim Cote (BOS) – 21 Seasons (2041)
252-196 Record 3.88 ERA 1.04 HR/9 2.42 BB/9 8.10 K/9 .242 OBA
7 All-Star Games
SP Fernando Ontario (TOR) – 19 Seasons (2042)
267-103 Record 3.03 ERA 0.50 HR/9 2.31 BB/9 6.33 K/9 .240 OBA
10 All-Star Games, 4 Cy Young Awards
SP Jay Robinson (LAA) – 16 Seasons (2042)
183-118 Record 3.46 ERA 0.85 HR/9 1.78 BB/9 5.83 K/9 .244 OBA
6 All-Star Games
RP Clay Rosen (NYY) – 13 Seasons (2028)
386 Saves 3.14 ERA 0.99 HR/9 3.10 BB/9 9.43 K/9 .200 OBA
4 All-Star Games
RP Brian Metcalf (NYM) – 13 Seasons (2030)
364 Saves 2.81 ERA 0.65 HR/9 2.48 BB/9 8.07 K/9 .218 OBA
2 All-Star Games
RP Rob Wood (TOR) – 16 Seasons (2032)
513 Saves 3.15 ERA 0.85 HR/9 3.80 BB/9 8.51 K/9 .210 OBA
4 All-Star Games
RP Alan Jackson (FLA) – 15 Seasons (2033)
503 Saves 2.50 ERA 0.55 HR/9 3.41 BB/9 7.48 K/9 .205 OBA
4 All-Star Games
RP Edmund Poez (COL) – 17 Seasons (2037)
519 Saves 3.35 ERA 0.81 HR/9 4.29 BB/9 10.86 K/9 .211 OBA
2 All-Star Games
RP James Threadgold (HOU) – 17 Seasons (2038)
363 Saves 3.00 ERA 0.90 HR/9 2.61 BB/9 10.89 K/9 .212 OBA
2 All-Star Games
RP Gary Kirsopp (NYM) – 18 Seasons (2039)
430 Saves 3.13 ERA 0.56 HR/9 3.61 BB/9 8.66 K/9 .216 OBA
2 All-Star Games
RP Max Shuman (NYY) – 18 Seasons (2042)
398 Saves 3.11 ERA 0.77 HR/9 3.72 BB/9 9.65 K/9 .207 OBA
4 All-Star Games
RP Ryan Kesterson (LAA) – 21 Seasons (2044)
468 Saves 3.42 ERA 0.83 HR/9 2.90 BB/9 9.42 K/9 .229 OBA
8 All-Star Games
RE: 2045 Voting Class - AndyP - 04-03-2014
Whenever those last few names are done - the voting ballot will be ready.
RE: 2045 Voting Class - mattynokes - 04-03-2014
It's all good now.
RE: 2045 Voting Class - mattynokes - 04-03-2014
I was asked to post some thoughts on what I felt were HOF numbers.
1) 3,000 Hits, 500 HRs, 1,000 SBs, 300 Wins, 500 Saves should be a lock.
2) 2,500 Hits, 450 HRs, 750 SBs, 250 Wins, 450 Saves are still DAMN impressive and should be considered very heavily.
3) 2,000 Hits, 400 HRs, 200 Wins, 400 Saves are the basic cut-off point that I used to determine nominees. Some made the list without any of these, but that had some damn good other credentials.
4) Don't discount the other counting numbers like Runs, RBI, and Walks. Getting to 1,250 R/RBI in FCM has proven to be tough. Also having the patience to walk over 1,000 times in your career is no easy task. For pitchers I've put HR, BB, and K in sabermetric form. Combined with their Record and ERA, this will give you a good sense of what they brought to the table each outing.
5) Don't put too much thought into players not having too many awards. Gold Gloves and All-Star votes can be very fickle in Mogul. Also, remember a player could have all-star worthy numbers on a full season scale, but not get voted in by Mogul if his first half numbers weren't stellar. Same thing with Cy Young and MVP Awards. It's possible the third best AL player was better than the NL MVP in a given year.
6) While at the same time, DO put stock into players having a bevvy of awards. Think multiple Gold Gloves, MVP Awards, Cy Young Awards, or probably 5+ ASGs. These players still need to have the counting numbers to get a HOF nod, but there's definitely something there if the player's name keeps popping up on awards year after year.
7) Remember, they don't play everyday and can't be scrutinized the same as someone playing 150 games. A good way to judge them is probably 80% (120 games) of #1-3 for how they stack up.
RE: 2045 Voting Class - AndyP - 04-04-2014
Voting is open until the draft:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/14wjxFRksLgqcogGAu4kk3xIPIQ_xQqHHUTUx2FSB1YE/viewform
RE: 2045 Voting Class - mattynokes - 05-20-2014
RP Ryan Christner (CHW) - 7 Seasons
272 Saves 2.49 ERA 0.78 HR/9 1.97 BB/9 8.19 K/9 .233 OBA
3B Lane Gravely (DET) - 18 Seasons (2045)
2,211 Hits 1,178 Runs 412 2B 376 HR 1,325 RBI 598 BB 8 SB .293/.349/.511
6 All-Star Games, 2 Gold Gloves