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RE: Type B Agents - GoIrish - 09-20-2010
I voted no because I am not a tremendous fan of that process. Anytime you take control out of the game and put it in the hands of a human, it opens it up to the criticism of ethics (ie.. You would not let me resign player x because of...). What you are doing is asking for a wider scope and I would not be a fan of that.
RE: Type B Agents - icedragon770 - 09-20-2010
(09-20-2010, 12:04 PM)GoIrish Wrote: I voted no because I am not a tremendous fan of that process. Anytime you take control out of the game and put it in the hands of a human, it opens it up to the criticism of ethics (ie.. You would not let me resign player x because of...). What you are doing is asking for a wider scope and I would not be a fan of that.
yup agree
RE: Type B Agents - dejota - 09-20-2010
The game does nothing worse than handle finances lol. We also post all negotiations publicly. In principal yes you open yourself up to certain risks, but we're transparent about how it's handled and I don't think a negotiation has or ever will boil down to "letting" somebody re-sign or not.
From my POV, and I might be off base, it seems the only real issues w/ agents are time consumption. I don't see how implementing a system that more closely mimes real life would ever be a detriment to the league unless, again, it's too time consuming.
RE: Type B Agents - dejota - 09-20-2010
Lol 7 no's, you guys just cannot stand having to pay fair value for your players can you? It baffles me that we all try to play realistic simulation baseball....except for being able to keep your OWN players...lmfao.
RE: Type B Agents - GoIrish - 09-20-2010
(09-20-2010, 01:47 PM)dejota Wrote: The game does nothing worse than handle finances lol. We also post all negotiations publicly. In principal yes you open yourself up to certain risks, but we're transparent about how it's handled and I don't think a negotiation has or ever will boil down to "letting" somebody re-sign or not.
From my POV, and I might be off base, it seems the only real issues w/ agents are time consumption. I don't see how implementing a system that more closely mimes real life would ever be a detriment to the league unless, again, it's too time consuming.
I never said that I did not feel that you guys do it fairly, I agree completely that you do in your process. I said that it opens you up to criticism. I never said that criticism was fair or just. People have a skewed perception at times.
i can understand the "why" for it being done and I can accept that even though I don't care for it. I just don't like that now the scope is being looked at on a larger scale. Now it is 88 and 89 players, then it will be 86 and 87... you get my drift. I just feel it is fine as is, we don't need a larger scale in place.
RE: Type B Agents - 'PR' - 09-20-2010
Hey if the league doesn't want it, no problem. I'm just disappointed that Sean is the only one out of the seven that could come up with a reason for a No.
RE: Type B Agents - ezpkns34 - 09-20-2010
(09-20-2010, 03:28 PM)Mstrpr626 Wrote: Hey if the league doesn't want it, no problem. I'm just disappointed that Sean is the only one out of the seven that could come up with a reason for a No.
While I've yet to vote on this and don't plan to since I'm fine with whatever, I have to call you out on this post due to:
(09-13-2010, 12:29 AM)Mstrpr626 Wrote: We don't have to, if we voted no then that's all that matters, that means we don't like the idea.
RE: Type B Agents - 'PR' - 09-20-2010
Hey no one needs to post a reason. I just said I was disappointed at the fact, not that I think anyone HAS to post a reason. I didn't look at it as an obligation, however Scotty made it seem that way in that thread.
RE: Type B Agents - dejota - 09-20-2010
Even if we don't always agree at least we're all always trying to better the league. :)
RE: Type B Agents - gmoney - 09-20-2010
I voted no, with a similar line of reasoning as GoIrish. The agent system in general lends itself to moral hazard concerns, especially concerning that the agents are all one dude (even if we all trust that one dude).
Moving the line from 90 to 88 only just allows a similar argument to be made for 86-87s down the road. The game's overall rating system is far from perfect, so you will always find exceptions. Moving the agent system down for all Type Bs just means the agent will have to deal with a lot of resignings for guys that Mogul handles decently enough as it is.