Allow Extenstions to 3 year players

[Scott]

This is becoming a new trend in the MLB. Longo, Votto, Bruce, Tulo, CarGo, Felix to name a few. These guys are wanting security and the teams are wanting a possible discount for signing them early.

[AndyP]

Yeah, this was part of my initial suggestion back when we talked about extensions.

But it seems like an agent situation....is that the best way to handle it?

[mattynokes]

I think I have an idea to offer up as how to handle it.

We already do the type A/B players for the veteran players, how about extending it to other players? Then if a 3 to 5 year player turns up as an A/B player they can be extended long term. It definitely shouldn't be open to everyone as people will take advantage of unrealistically signing crappy to decent players to very cheap, long-term deals.

Or a team could submit their case to the corresponding agent as if they were a 90+ heading into free agency. Then either McInnis or Boras could decide if it's in the player's best interest to sign long-term earlier and then the contract would be negotiated through an agent.

[rockybull]

I think I have an idea to offer up as how to handle it.

We already do the type A/B players for the veteran players, how about extending it to other players? Then if a 3 to 5 year player turns up as an A/B player they can be extended long term. It definitely shouldn't be open to everyone as people will take advantage of unrealistically signing crappy to decent players to very cheap, long-term deals.

Or a team could submit their case to the corresponding agent as if they were a 90+ heading into free agency. Then either McInnis or Boras could decide if it's in the player's best interest to sign long-term earlier and then the contract would be negotiated through an agent.

ya I like that one right there, I think this could def be accomplished and be fair.

[AndyP]

If I remember - DJ said we can already do that. I think Scott was referring to non-agent qualifying players.

[Scott]

If I remember - DJ said we can already do that. I think Scott was referring to non-agent qualifying players.

I think Matty is saying have an agent for players below 90 that you want to extend if they have 3 years.

[mattynokes]

If I remember - DJ said we can already do that. I think Scott was referring to non-agent qualifying players.

I think Matty is saying have an agent for players below 90 that you want to extend if they have 3 years.

Yes. Here's two examples from my team.

CF Tim Wheeler

For example purposes I'll say that he's gotten full playing time starting in 2015, since he probably should have. By the end of this season that would likely put him roughly at a .245/.320/.450 over that stretch.

He's clearly not star, but he's well-round and I think as long as I wouldn't low ball him, then he could benefit from being signed to multiple seasons rather than just one through arbitration. Usually players starting arbitration won't be as old as Wheeler, so that would be another plus for my argument as he likely isn't going to improve his value much by going through arbitration.

So for what that means to me and what Wheeler is, is that I'd say he's a borderline case since he actually hasn't been given full-time duties for very long, but I'd think as long as I'm paying him a solid wage then he'd be signable.

1B Nick Trudeau

He'd be one that I'd expect the agents to come back and say "no" to. Why? He's at normal age for entering arbitration, so I couldn't play the age angle. He also hasn't ever been given an opportunity to start full-time for a full season.

If he's let to be signed long-term it's possible that he'd be given a shot at starting full-time, but at the first sign of trouble he may be benched since his salary probably wouldn't be too high. Whereas there may be a team out there that loves his power potential and would be willing to give him a shot at starting. If he'd have to stay on the arbitration clock it's likely he'd be non-tendered after a bad year.

[AndyP]

If I remember - DJ said we can already do that. I think Scott was referring to non-agent qualifying players.

I think Matty is saying have an agent for players below 90 that you want to extend if they have 3 years.

Right but then that goes back to my question about an already overloaded agent system. Can we really afford to add another tier of players to that?

[psbaseballfan27]

Enough of the regulations and new rules. We have more than any other league does. If we continue why dont we have agents for every damn player in this league. We do enough to protect players with agents, rules on extensions etc etc. This is becoming quite annoying every two minutes theres another rule. Can we have some stability with policies we make?!

[dejota]

In a word, no. The system is fine and realistic.