More Wild Card Teams?

'PR' · (This post was last modified: 11-11-2010, 04:53 PM by 'PR'.)

(11-11-2010, 04:22 PM)AndyP Wrote: Yeah, I would've benefited from it last year....but personally I hate diluted playoff fields. In the NHL and NBA having a pulse is enough to make the playoffs - screw that. I like the regular season meaning something - you want the playoffs, earn it.

Good point. However, with this suggestion implemented 18 teams will not make the playoffs. That is still a good sum of teams who miss out. Adding two more WC slots to each league doesn't really make it all the way easy to get into the playoffs, teams will still have to have 88 to 90 wins to be good enough to make the playoffs with the exception of some squads in certain years. I stated before how this could get teams that feel a little discouraged by their monster division rivals to actually make those off-season or deadline deals that could potentially boost them into the playoffs, thus creating more revenue and fan support, thus making the entire league a bit more competitive, and a bright spot about this is that it doesn't mess with the talent levels in anyway. It's not like the NBA or NHL where half the league makes the playoffs, 12 teams out of 30 still have to be better than over half the league to make the playoffs.

Jordan · 11-11-2010, 05:06 PM

I don't like this idea. Even though it would give me a better shot in my tough division, you have a greater feeling of acomplishment when you are able to make the playoffs as only one of 4 teams. When you have 6 or 8 teams from each conference, then its kind of like all you need to do is be above .500 to make it.

And I agree with the earlier statement, I think by Andy, that if you add more teams to the playoffs it gives less importance to the regular season.

Jordan · 11-11-2010, 05:07 PM

(11-11-2010, 02:16 PM)Scott Wrote: No. If it happens IRL then I'll consider it, but now, no

If expansion happens IRL then I'll consider it, but now, no :)

'PR' · (This post was last modified: 11-11-2010, 05:26 PM by 'PR'.)

(11-11-2010, 05:06 PM)Jordan Wrote: I don't like this idea. Even though it would give me a better shot in my tough division, you have a greater feeling of acomplishment when you are able to make the playoffs as only one of 4 teams. When you have 6 or 8 teams from each conference, then its kind of like all you need to do is be above .500 to make it.

And I agree with the earlier statement, I think by Andy, that if you add more teams to the playoffs it gives less importance to the regular season.

It's completely inaccurate to say all you need is to be just above .500 it make the playoffs. The 2 Wild Card spots will still be filled by teams who have high 80s or low 90s records. That's still a substantial amount of wins over losses. This won't take the importance of the regular season out because it's only 6 teams out of 14 or 16 making the playoffs. Only 12 out of 30. You still have to be one of the leagues top teams to make the playoffs. This system actually feels like it brings the best of the best in baseball into the post season. Ever other team after the last 2 WC spots have a record around 86 to 83 wins, which isn't enough, but almost a couple wins close to the playoffs. If they had won those couple of wins, the teams with the last 2 WC spots either have lower records, or they play tie breaker to figure out the playoff spots. That means good teams still miss out on the playoffs.

gmoney · 11-11-2010, 05:42 PM

Just an aside - does the game structure even allow for this to occur?

I started with a generic 2010 file and went into the league editor, and could not figure out how to alter the number of playoff teams the game allows for.

It's very possible Mogul 2011's programming renders this discussion moot.

'PR' · 11-11-2010, 06:05 PM

(11-11-2010, 05:42 PM)gmoney Wrote: Just an aside - does the game structure even allow for this to occur?

I started with a generic 2010 file and went into the league editor, and could not figure out how to alter the number of playoff teams the game allows for.

It's very possible Mogul 2011's programming renders this discussion moot.

Yea I figured that out too. If it is even possible than it can come into play. If not we can discuss it when Mogul 2012 comes out. Is it possible to switch the files over from 2011 to 2012?

mike · 11-11-2010, 08:00 PM

I don't think you can add more playoffs teams. On this topic though I'm on the fence. It would make for a lot more trading come deadline day because if you think you have a shot at 80 wins then you will make the move to get to high 80's since that would likley net you a playoff spot. Howvere this could also mean that wehave too many teamds as buyers and not enough sellers to supply the trade market but I guess that in turn would just make everyones star players worth a bit more. With only 8 teams making only the best of the best get in their and you really have to earn it. Last year I may not have picked up Alonso had i thought only winning 80ish games could get me in.

Jordan · 11-11-2010, 10:10 PM

(11-11-2010, 06:05 PM)Mstrpr626 Wrote:
(11-11-2010, 05:42 PM)gmoney Wrote: Just an aside - does the game structure even allow for this to occur?

I started with a generic 2010 file and went into the league editor, and could not figure out how to alter the number of playoff teams the game allows for.

It's very possible Mogul 2011's programming renders this discussion moot.

Yea I figured that out too. If it is even possible than it can come into play. If not we can discuss it when Mogul 2012 comes out. Is it possible to switch the files over from 2011 to 2012?

Not that I know of.

***hokeyrules*** · 11-12-2010, 01:12 AM

yes you can always switch over files, but my stance remains the same. Right now the league is going good, so don't fix what is not broken. You are all so against expansion, which I am too, yet then you want to do this, which to me makes little sense. Why make a league easier? Don't you want a challenge?

'PR' · 11-12-2010, 03:01 AM

(11-12-2010, 01:12 AM)hokeyrules Wrote: yes you can always switch over files, but my stance remains the same. Right now the league is going good, so don't fix what is not broken. You are all so against expansion, which I am too, yet then you want to do this, which to me makes little sense. Why make a league easier? Don't you want a challenge?

How does it make no sense if I'm against expansion and for this? These are two totally different topics. This won't be making the league easier. The teams will still need 88 to 90 wins to get into the playoffs.