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Talent Issues 2022
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(10-04-2011, 07:10 PM)AndyP Wrote: Alright, well maybe I can help here.

Part of what is causing the problem between DJ and Rocky is that we aren't all being totally honest here. DJ - you aren't just looking to deflate talent. At least it isn't that simple. If it was, lowering the minor league talent rating would effectively help with that. In all honesty, it's probably a better method. Instead, you want to lower the talent while at the same time promoting parity. What Rocky is reacting to is the idea that CURRENT talent is going to again be punished in order to accomplish this. Meaning that teams like his are going to suffer worse than others for no other reason than his success. (Please correct me if I'm wrong Rocky)

The problem is - talent is relevant. If every player in the file as a 90, it doesn't mean they're all the same. I guarantee you I could form a team full of 70s and 80s right now and beat just about any team in the league. This black and white view that "too many 80s and 90s = bad" just doesn't make any sense to me. I'd take Adam Smith (an 82) over half the 90s in the file. The problem is, when the file decides to punish 90 players down, it does it in a way that punishes just as many legit, great 90s players as it does the ones that are inflated piles of crap. And if we keep trying to slaughter the 90s players in this fashion we're going to crush the fun of playing in a league when you often get 3-4 year career paths.

As it stands right now, we're going to continue the disproportionate push to have rookies excel which, by definition in Mogul, is going to crush veterans. You want to talk about a lack of realism? Our current prospect development is wildly unrealistic.

Frankly - I like where the talent levels are and even if they needed to go down I would wait at least a few seasons before I reacted to any changes made. And, in the future, we need to be honest that we're looking to kill talent and promote parity - which is not the same as promoting realism. Deepening the effects of what we've already done is going to further reduce realism.

First off, good reply to this. I honestly just feel that this is being done needlessly and told DJ a few hours ago on the shoutbox that who cares if there are a bunch of 90's players at these positions, not all are all that great. You have to look at the vitals, and the vitals is the key thing in mogul. I told him I thought he was overreacting cause he is putting too much stock into overalls and not the vitals. He told me that I was flat out wrong, so whatever.

I also feel like every few mogul years he will bring this up trying to perfect the system(it isn't realistically possible) and that if he doesn't get enough volunteers that he is probably going to want to panic and do something. I personally think DJ is his own worse enemy right now with this. If he wants to hurt good teams with more parity with this, then fine. But, at least go in and knock down farm systems from 93 to 85, otherwise I think he is just pissing in the wind with his whole idea.

I pretty much agree spot on with what you said Andy, I'm in agreement, I think the file is damn good right now honestly.
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Talent Issues 2022 - by dejota - 10-03-2011, 03:18 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by dejota - 10-03-2011, 03:19 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by rockybull - 10-03-2011, 04:59 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by GoIrish - 10-03-2011, 06:24 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by dejota - 10-03-2011, 07:31 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by AndyP - 10-03-2011, 07:45 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by dejota - 10-03-2011, 09:53 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by mike - 10-03-2011, 10:33 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by AndyP - 10-03-2011, 10:43 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by Peter - 10-04-2011, 08:16 AM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by rockybull - 10-04-2011, 01:33 AM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by mattynokes - 10-04-2011, 01:39 AM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by mike - 10-04-2011, 02:04 AM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by rockybull - 10-04-2011, 02:26 AM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by dejota - 10-04-2011, 04:26 AM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by mike - 10-04-2011, 10:11 AM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by GoIrish - 10-04-2011, 12:21 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by mike - 10-04-2011, 01:44 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by GoIrish - 10-04-2011, 03:27 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by rockybull - 10-04-2011, 02:28 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by mike - 10-04-2011, 02:40 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by rockybull - 10-04-2011, 02:56 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by dejota - 10-04-2011, 03:19 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by dejota - 10-04-2011, 03:35 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by rockybull - 10-04-2011, 03:51 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by GoIrish - 10-04-2011, 04:01 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by rockybull - 10-04-2011, 05:04 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by GoIrish - 10-04-2011, 06:50 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by mattynokes - 10-04-2011, 06:43 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by AndyP - 10-04-2011, 07:10 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by rockybull - 10-04-2011, 07:51 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by dejota - 10-04-2011, 10:15 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by AndyP - 10-04-2011, 10:55 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by Cdawg - 10-05-2011, 10:39 AM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by dejota - 10-05-2011, 12:19 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by GoIrish - 10-05-2011, 12:45 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by rockybull - 10-05-2011, 06:15 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by dejota - 10-05-2011, 07:07 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by AndyP - 10-05-2011, 11:07 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by dejota - 10-05-2011, 11:22 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by AndyP - 10-05-2011, 11:45 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by dejota - 10-06-2011, 01:57 AM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by KillaCal AKA JS - 10-06-2011, 02:33 AM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by AndyP - 10-06-2011, 10:42 AM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by dejota - 10-06-2011, 10:54 AM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by AndyP - 10-06-2011, 02:06 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by GoIrish - 10-06-2011, 02:19 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by AndyP - 10-06-2011, 06:42 PM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by mike - 10-07-2011, 02:13 AM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by AndyP - 10-07-2011, 08:48 AM
RE: Talent Issues 2022 - by Peter - 10-07-2011, 03:17 PM

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