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(03-23-2011, 03:43 PM)dejota Wrote: Now that the decision is made, I'd like to point out COL acquired players that are friends with Kimbrel during the offseason in order for Kimbrel to waive his NTC. I don't know if this would've changed thing since this approval seems to hinge on the idea that Kimbrel's okay with Colorado. In reality, he wasn't until COL acquired friends in November. He also used time reference as his point...Scotty was shopping Kimbrel before the ink dried on this contract which was the red flag that make this sign-and-trade so painfully obviously and COL was acquiring players to make this happen 4 months before the deal even went down. Not only are they being shady in their approach they're trying to sell their shit as scentless. When trading players that are even borderline sign-and-trades it's up to the GMs to not only point it out but explain what's led them to this situation. Colorado noted it and more or less scoffed at the rule as defense and Scotty's reasoning was he needed a change of scenery. If that was the damn case neither party should've been interested in an extension to begin with.

Bottom Line:

Both GMs manipulated the system at the expense of the market to make this deal happen. I don't appreciate either approach but I respect the mods decision.

That's what the league rules tell me to do when a player won't accept a NTC.

Quote:No Trade Clauses

You can work around NTCs in 3 ways:
-Renegotiate a contract that doesn't include a NTC before the trade.
-Move friends until a player will waive his NTC for the team trading for the player with the NTC.
-Buy it out for 15M (either party or a combo of both may pay it off).

From what I remember Scott started marketing Kimbrel at the deadline and I was interested. After the controversy started up, he backed off. Then in the off-season he posted him as available again. Naturally, I was interested. I added Ortegano and Hale so SEA's options of trading Kimbrel would be limited (unless someone wanted to pay $15M).

The bottom line is the league rules tell me that if a player won't accept a trade because of a NTC then one of the ways I can get around it is by acquiring said player's friends. I followed the posted league rule and I'm being made out to have done something sneaky and wrong?
Cle

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COL-SEA Trade - by mattynokes - 03-23-2011, 01:33 AM
RE: COL-SEA Trade - by Scott - 03-23-2011, 01:35 AM
RE: COL-SEA Trade - by danpac47 - 03-23-2011, 01:46 AM
RE: COL-SEA Trade - by rockybull - 03-23-2011, 02:02 AM
RE: COL-SEA Trade - by AndyP - 03-23-2011, 02:29 AM
RE: COL-SEA Trade - by jps93 - 03-23-2011, 01:44 PM
RE: COL-SEA Trade - by dejota - 03-23-2011, 03:43 PM
RE: COL-SEA Trade - by mattynokes - 03-23-2011, 04:45 PM
RE: COL-SEA Trade - by dejota - 03-23-2011, 06:59 PM
RE: COL-SEA Trade - by hokeyrules - 03-23-2011, 07:40 PM
RE: COL-SEA Trade - by chrisveley - 03-23-2011, 08:18 PM
RE: COL-SEA Trade - by rockybull - 03-23-2011, 08:32 PM
RE: COL-SEA Trade - by dejota - 03-23-2011, 09:03 PM

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