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(02-16-2011, 04:04 PM)mike Wrote: I actually agree with you 100% on this one Andy. My only problem is while yes in real life you pay the full 100% to buy him out but there is a million and one ways to get around this in real life. Some of which are, opt out clauses, buy out clauses, performnce clauses etc. Until mogul (or ourselves) can simulate these things (for all players not just agent eligable) then we can't really be on the hook for the full cost.

You offer the contract - you're on the hook. In MLB those clauses are only there if guys agree to them in the signing process - I'm sure DJ would agree that this wouldn't be out of the rules to offer to an agent. Guys signing players to 10 year deals in FA because they plan to buy out the last 4-5 is a completely different story.

Quote:On the topic of agents: No way should an agent be mad or be hard to negotiate with just because you found a way to move a player or buy him out. Its up to the agent to get the best deal for his player and if he didn't want him being traded or bought out for only half..etc then he should have demanded some sort of clause be put into the contract. In no way is that the GM's problem for exhausting all their options when it comes to player personell.

Agents can take personal affronts to what you say. It looks like bad faith negotiations to continually offer long term contracts and then trade people immediately after. If a GM is doing that, the agent should be a complete dick about making sure an iron-clad NTC is in there for subsequent clients or that he drives up the price if the GM refuses.

In real life you don't get to sign players to seven year deals and then turn around and trade half of those same players less than 2 or 3 years into the deal. Agents get wise, players get wise, and thus teams don't do it. FCM should take a harder stance on that kind of BS.
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Release Player/Sign Player - by mav3rek - 02-15-2011, 10:40 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by 'PR' - 02-15-2011, 10:44 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by mav3rek - 02-15-2011, 10:48 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by dejota - 02-15-2011, 10:52 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by mike - 02-16-2011, 03:18 AM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by 'PR' - 02-16-2011, 09:39 AM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by dejota - 02-16-2011, 11:47 AM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by AndyP - 02-16-2011, 11:53 AM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by mattynokes - 02-16-2011, 12:52 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by mike - 02-16-2011, 04:04 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by AndyP - 02-16-2011, 04:20 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by mike - 02-16-2011, 04:38 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by dejota - 02-16-2011, 04:48 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by AndyP - 02-16-2011, 05:11 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by mike - 02-16-2011, 04:54 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by GoIrish - 02-16-2011, 05:26 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by dejota - 02-16-2011, 08:57 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by dejota - 02-16-2011, 09:04 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by mike - 02-16-2011, 09:29 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by mattynokes - 02-16-2011, 10:26 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by AndyP - 02-16-2011, 10:22 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by mike - 02-16-2011, 10:28 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by dejota - 02-17-2011, 01:58 AM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by mike - 02-17-2011, 07:20 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by dejota - 02-17-2011, 07:37 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by 'PR' - 02-17-2011, 07:45 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by dejota - 02-17-2011, 08:01 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by mattynokes - 02-17-2011, 08:05 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by mike - 02-17-2011, 08:10 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by dejota - 02-17-2011, 08:19 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by AndyP - 02-17-2011, 09:05 PM
RE: Release Player/Sign Player - by Cdawg - 02-20-2011, 05:09 PM

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