01-30-2011, 02:21 AM
(01-30-2011, 01:52 AM)AndyP Wrote: What I was looking for was insight into what you think is strong in their vitals. I see two players who can't play defense and have no tools that stand out as highly project-able. Condescending about simplicity and slowing it down is unnecessary. My slant is not that the players being given are elite....but that they're worth well more than empty overall/peak ratios.
I'll think about this some more and vote tomorrow.
see thats the thing about it is their ages. They have weak defensive vitals because they are insanely young. I have been around long enough to see vitals go up and improve lots more, now will they win gold gloves? prolly not, but they have a shot at being damn good. Salm will have a good arm for a 2B, along with pretty good fielding, I think if developed right he should have around 75-80 range which is pretty good for a second baseman especially with arm and fielding likely a good bit higher. Venet is gonna have crazy fielding, but at such a young age, he will develop an arm and range, arm has a shot at 85+, and range around 75-85 somewhere in that range, which isn't bad along with a strong bat. If both guys were 20 I would be like, ya they can't play defense, but I been around long enough to realize if developed right, they will develop better defense.
Salm may not have any "standout" tools, but he is very young, and with his vitals, he looks like a complete offensive threat, along with much improved defense. Venet is insanely young too, and other than contact he looks to be a force in the middle of a lineup with improved defensive vitals as he matures. I still think contact has a shot at being pretty good though. That RP is a guy that could be wildcard in this entire trade, he is young enough with those vitals to really make me look good and smart in a few years. Take all the time you want, but like I said very rarely do I get beat in trades, you can ask Stang this, cause he has been in two leagues with me, he knows the damage I can do lol.