01-30-2011, 01:07 AM
(01-29-2011, 09:41 PM)AndyP Wrote: rocky, being new I'm examining this move a little bit more closely than most. You're giving up two productive 90+ players for a package with only two 90 peaks and one 80s peak. My personal opinion of Salm and Venet is very, very low. Can you clarify what it is in your evaluations you liked?
My vote will hold to hear more on this.
alright let me explain this to you real easy. Yes im new here, but not new to mogul, I think only two people here that have prolly heard of me is hokey and stang. stang knows me pretty damn good. I'm easily one of the best mogul GM's out there, im def a top GM when it comes with drafting and development. First off mogul 2011 is no sure thing for nobody, but Salm has a shot to be really freakin good, so does Velet, so good that when they develop there is a chance its gonna look like a damn rape job that I did on this GM in this deal. When it's all said and done every GM here will remember who I am, and know for sure what I am and not good at in mogul lol.
Let me break down this trade as slowly and easily as I can so you and others can keep up. Matusz in my opinion is 84 overall type player with his vitals, I just don't like the guy and don't like the money and years he is under contract for. I wanna get this guy gone and max his value as much as possible, and I believe I did this here. Davis is a fine bat, he really is, but his defense is damn awful for a CF, he is relegated as a corner OF, that is plain and simple, and he will I guess be a FA in the next offseason or year after at most, I don't wanna resign this stick and pay him prolly $13+ mil a year for whatever many years when im gonna rebuild this team into greatness. People say get max value, well hell ya get max value, but this is max value.
You see two 90+ players and go wow you only get a 98 peak and 90 peak player with 2 scrubs and a 84 peak guy, what are you doin rocky? you crazy? It's simple, real simple here that Salm with his age, and vitals, he has a shot at being one of the top 2B in the game in future, and Venet with his age and vitals he has a shot at being good too, he has weak contact, but hey if he is developed right he has a shot to get 75+ contact easily, both players have shots at being MLB future starting players. Maytorena is a guy with a low peak now, relievers I will say can sometimes be hard to read, but at his age and vitals, he at least has a shot at being a valuable future reliever, whether that is true or not is to be determined. Nobody can say oh yes I got completely raped, or oh man I destroyed this GM in this trade. Put it like this, could I have gotten more? maybe, but maybe not. I think two 90's and a mid 80's spec for these guys is max value, I believe. I can't guarantee that 6 years down the road that this deal will be great for me, because nobody can guarantee anything in mogul, but I believe I will come out very good in this deal. But I will say this though, I rarely get beat in trades when it is all said and done.
Playing mogul, I don't like getting way too much for players most of the time, unless I feel they are very special, I don't feel like Davis or Matusz are special here, and I beleive I got full value for guys that I want to get rid of and have no more use for. This is how I trade though, I have a certain way I go about dealing. I don't just give guys away, but I feel that I have a shot at getting 1 superstar and 1 real good player and a guy in the RP that has a shot at being good in this deal. Thats all you ever ask for in a trade. Now that I totally dissed Matusz and Davis, I would be amazed if I got half this from teams if this is vetoed but whatever lol. Hopefully I didn't sound too big of a prick here, just tried to explain this deal as simple as possible lol.