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Simplifying New Stadium/ Stadium Upgrades - mattynokes - 10-14-2021
So after an interesting discussion on discord, here is where we landed:
From here on there is only one base cost for stadiums:
- $250M
- Plus $50M to relocate to another city
All of the money would need to be paid upfront. This would also come with no more upgrades to just Convenience, Comfort, Sight Lines. If you want to fix those, build a new stadium.
Stadium size is no longer allowed to seat more than 60k. You can elect any stadium seating size you want, but 60k is the max. Buying subsequent seating additions is no longer possible.
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The new guidelines would read...
New Stadium Guidelines
Stadium
1. Cost is $250M (for Seating at 50,000 and all Excellent)
2. Cost to relocate is $50M
3. All of the money needs to be paid upfront. As of now loans are not on the table.
Effects
1. Effects will be re-calculated in-game
2. Effects may come under a "sanity check" by admins (i.e. we don't want to see 186 HR factor in COL)
3. Infield Quality cannot be changed from Average
4. HR Effects are capped at 80 (Lowest) and 125 (Highest)
5. BA Effects are capped at 90 (Lowest) and 115 (Highest)
Stadium Upgrade Guidelines
Upgrade Convenience/Comfort/Sight Lines
Only allowed when building a new stadium (all go to Excellent)
Playing Field and Dimensions Adjustments (Only if effects are not playing out as hoped)
Infield Quality: Cannot be changed (Everyone is set at Average)
Infield Grass: Cost is $2.5M per Level
Visibility: Cost is $5M per Level
Foul Ground: Cost is $2.5M per Level
Install Turf/Grass: Cost is $10M
OF Dimensions: Cost is $20M
All changes are subject to admin approval
To facilitate these changes the following bank/financing adjustments would be made:
*Team banks are no longer allowed.
*Teams will have a stadium bank that is capped at 250M. This money can be deposited at any time up to the cap, but cannot be withdrawn for ANY reason apart from building a new stadium.
*In game minimum (previously 30M) is eliminated
*Offseason taxation is eliminated
*GMs will manage their funds in game on their own. If you want to buy WB slots....keep the money in game. If you want to buy draft picks....keep it in game. If you want to buy players...keep it in game. The stadium fund has one purpose only.
If approved these changes will result in some grandfathering and understanding in how they are implemented. If they don't work as intended, same thing. This isn't designed to be a brutal experience for anyone and if unintended consequences happen, there will be nothing but understanding. The purpose is to streamline stadiums, cut out dumbfuckery with banks, and add to the skill/challenge of cash management.
RE: Simplifying New Stadium/ Stadium Upgrades - cadmus2166 - 10-14-2021
I think this makes a lot of sense. It streamlines the stadium building process and seems like a lot less work for both GMs and Andy overall.
RE: Simplifying New Stadium/ Stadium Upgrades - mzylinski - 10-14-2021
Yes but does it overcharge for some teams and under charge on others is the question
RE: Simplifying New Stadium/ Stadium Upgrades - mattynokes - 10-14-2021
As I said, some teams will benefit (from a cheaper stadium). Others will overpay. LAA's stadium cost $355M, but that was at 60K seating. At 50K seating, it would cost $271M. So, if we're assuming they aren't relocating, it's a better deal. If we are assuming relocation, they overpay a little bit. Either way, I don't think it's worth keeping the current process. Having to pay it all upfront, is no small task and worth cutting people a break. A new stadium should cost a big chunk of money (and $250M+ accomplishes that). After that, arguing over someone saving or over paying ~$25M seems petty.
RE: Simplifying New Stadium/ Stadium Upgrades - warpriest - 10-14-2021
In favor of the proposed change.
RE: Simplifying New Stadium/ Stadium Upgrades - mascotics - 10-14-2021
Stupid and just stems from laziness. This actually hurts small market teams by removing financing and helps no one. Big market teams can afford a stadium at full price, while small market teams will struggle to piece $250M extra up front money without the financing. Just stop being lazy, use a calculator.
RE: Simplifying New Stadium/ Stadium Upgrades - sxr007 - 10-14-2021
Don't fix these that are not broken. The current system has worked for 100 years. It isn't a current problem.
RE: Simplifying New Stadium/ Stadium Upgrades - Atlbravesfan27 - 10-15-2021
yeah, i'm with sxr on this.. i get the simplifying option of things, but no offense, this almost feels like a poldi idea b/c he wants to fix something that isnt broken... i dont see a point to this
RE: Simplifying New Stadium/ Stadium Upgrades - mike - 10-15-2021
all for the change
RE: Simplifying New Stadium/ Stadium Upgrades - Cheato - 10-15-2021
Against it, upgrading should be allowed