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Arm Issue - hokeyrules - 12-31-2012

As I have tried to explain. The arm issue is only a problem for players who are currently playing, but for prospects there is no issue. In outtahere as cdawg, decker, stang, ps, and I know you have the ability to sim ahead on their file, and really in order to do trade or that you need to sim multiple times to test and see if players will be good or not. Makes late draft kind of pointless. Anyways, through testing there arms get severely better.

From the looks of it LF start around 55-58 and move anywhere from barely or up to the mid 80s.

RF's are the ones where the arms can actually improve a lot, some can go from 55-58 to the 90s.

CF's are the only ones I am not sure about as there is not enough information on them.


I am going to post two files one is the last sim in outtahere in 2044 and another is a sim ahead file to 2050. Here are some names I want you to look up.


LFs - Brian Buckman, Chris Maloy, Brian Hopkins

RFs - Jairo Hernandez, Gabe Holston (one of the few who does not move much), Shozen Kouno

Now keep in mind 2044 was the first year that they used mogul 13. However Shozen Kouno is from 2043.

As for catchers I did not look much into it but there are improvements on catchers, just not as significant as RF's. Kevin Shotton or Joaquin Martelles is an example.

You can even use the 2044 file to sim yourself and see changes, because not every sim is going to be the same so just use the play multiple seasons through 2049 and it will go to the same point.

Anyways I am not trying to prove 2k13 is a perfect sim as it is clearly not and Andy has made point that there are many issues with defense. I am just trying to say the arm situation does not ruin prospects.

It does however hurt players who have no arms now. And really there is only one solution that I can think of for that, which the admins are made aware of and I feel like there was a post on it before.