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RE: 1B Kevin Youkilis - Type A - danpac47 - 09-21-2010
I pm the guy on saturday night, he replied 30 minutes before resignings were due. Come on now...
RE: 1B Kevin Youkilis - Type A - ezpkns34 - 09-21-2010
http://www.firstclassmogul.com/showthread.php?tid=1522&pid=5377#pid5377
RE: 1B Kevin Youkilis - Type A - danpac47 - 09-21-2010
i joined halfway through the season, and with a league with a ton of rules, it wasn't a priority.
looking back at it now, i probably should have, but i sent the pm on time, and if i have to lose youkilis because the agent replied 30 minutes before resignings were due, then that would be ridiculous.
RE: 1B Kevin Youkilis - Type A - mike - 09-21-2010
Kinda agree with Danpac here. You are new and with all this new agent stuff going on should get a special consideration. Plus you did pm on time.
RE: 1B Kevin Youkilis - Type A - ezpkns34 - 09-21-2010
Same thing happend to Kobie last season w/ Halladay. Just going off precedent here
RE: 1B Kevin Youkilis - Type A - dejota - 09-21-2010
I think there's a lot that's going on here so let me try and hit it all up.
1) Yes the agent should've gotten back to you sooner and that's not ideal. On the other hand, it's hard to play the ample time card when you did have all season to address it (or half since you were a mid-season addition).
2) The rules are in one place and I practically plead with GMs to ask if they don't understand. I put them in one massive post to prevent confusion.
3) Nick is right there is precedent for his release
4) This may be advantageous to you as it seems nobody wants to part with their 1st for a 34 year old. You may be able to get him cheaper by avoiding arbitration and just signing him to a market deal at or near the offer you made for him.
Lastly, I wanted to be clear nobody is picking on you. There seems to be this assumption (by most GMs) that players owe teams something or there's some obligatory period where teams and players MUST negotiate exclusively and that's not the case. If you waited until the last minute in real life with a player and he didn't like your offer it's not his obligation to tell you in any time frame. But there is precedent so if you want to keep Youk you'll have to do so on the open market.
RE: 1B Kevin Youkilis - Type A - danpac47 - 09-21-2010
Code:
Re: Kevin Youkilis
To: danpac47
danpac47 Wrote:
Agent McInnis Wrote:
danpac47 Wrote:
Kevin Youkilis (92)
Would like to offer $9.5M for 3 years.
Guaranteed playing time at 1B, and maybe 3B.
Would hit in the middle of the order.
Thanks.
Youk wants more than that to stay put. 3yrs is about right but he'd want his current rate of 13M to agree and avoid the big payoff potentially awaiting him in fA>
13M for 3 years. Done.
Well we can post this as the current best offer or youc an try and get him cheaper on the open market. Your call.That's what the agent said. So if it's up to me, I'd like to sign him at 13M for 3 years to remain with the Red Sox.
RE: 1B Kevin Youkilis - Type A - ezpkns34 - 09-21-2010
3 yrs @ $11M
1 yr PO @ $12m
$45M total
RE: 1B Kevin Youkilis - Type A - danpac47 - 09-21-2010
precedent my ass.
10M for 5 years
RE: 1B Kevin Youkilis - Type A - ezpkns34 - 09-21-2010
4 yrs @ $12M
1 yr PO @ $13M
$61M total